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Well you are right Nipson, it solemnly depends on your needs. But as a matter of fact W960i is an upgrade to the W950i, where ppl had made complaints regarding a camera on the phone and a wifi as well upto some extent and now as SE have put these stuff on the phone (now W960i) ppl were expecting some more on this phone as they have seen some good stuff on the phones like N95 and over hyped Iphone. W960i is not a true competitor to the iphone but it is as i mentioned an upgrade to the W950i and thats it. SE will not sit quite because Nokia and Apple is taking a large of amount of markete share not just because of good phones but as long as with the state of the art technology implemented int those phone. We will definatily hear an announcment from SE a so called iphone killer in the first quarter of 2008 in the form of W1i or W3i i guess. If SE doesn't come up with this in the near future, then ppl would get inclined to Iphone and the newly upcoming touchscreen from Nokia (Nokia's Iphone killer), which could lead SE to a disaster.
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Posted: 2007-10-24 12:01:20
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Whilst i appreciate your view last Year when the P990, M600 and W950 we were told there were another 4-5 UIQ devices coming shortly yet one year later all we got was the P1 and W960. There have been so many rumours of the next announcement when we will have these devices and yet they continually fail to appear.
In fact there is even a rumour of announcement on the 15th November for devices to release Q2 2008, now you are saying this won't happen yet again and it will be a Q1 announcement which will mean device's launch when Q3/Q4 if we are lucky.
Which IMO is much to little much to late 3 UIQ3 Devices in 2006 a record but look at the state they launched in and the problems that caused for SE. Followed by 2 devices in 2007 one of which is still to launch and yet both these devices still have the same processor and graphics as announced for the P990 the first UIQ3 device back in 2005. That is one long life cycle for hardware in a environment where there is so much rapid progress even Moto's first UIQ3 device has better spec' than SE devices realeased after it. I really hope SE do release something to WOW us and win a lot of us back but it will besides having a much improved spec need to be relatively bug free as well.
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Posted: 2007-10-24 12:25:52
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On 2007-10-24 12:01:20, aasimtom wrote:
(...)W960i is not a true competitor to the iphone but it is as i mentioned an upgrade to the W950i and thats it. SE will not sit quite because Nokia and Apple is taking a large of amount of markete share not just because of good phones but as long as with the state of the art technology implemented int those phone. We will definatily hear an announcment from SE a so called iphone killer in the first quarter of 2008 in the form of W1i or W3i i guess. If SE doesn't come up with this in the near future, then ppl would get inclined to Iphone and the newly upcoming touchscreen from Nokia (Nokia's Iphone killer), which could lead SE to a disaster.
Sure. But what are they really offering that puts them above - for instance - the w960? As I said, the actual differences between 180Mhz and 320 Mhz on a flash- based file- system is not exactly tremendous. So until we get better batteries, the high- end units will utilize various power- save features, while attempting not to compromise quality too much. Even if, on a walkman phone, there should be some sort of focus on sound and music- player functions. And the w960 doesn't quite offer that - it's the same as usual, and an upgraded version of the w950, with better ram and bigger storage.
So I ask you - what does the iPhone, the n95 or the n81 offer for audiophiles that the w960 doesn't? What about the iPhone killers? What do they offer that's actually new?
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Posted: 2007-10-24 13:20:50
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Well the review certainly made my mind up NO WAY will I be spening one penny of my hard earned on the W960. it looks so cheap and nasty (nothing like shiney plastic to look nice and tacky (the memory flap on my P1 is a classic example)and as for that cheap cr***y stylus...... dont even go there.
Plus what genius decided to put a BST 33 in a device suposedly aimed at constant mp3 playback? the P1 battery would Ii have thought, been the absolute minimum required for the job!
if you are listening; you had a golden opportunity to create something that would really challenge Iphone sales and you have failed miserably on Build & Power Supply alone, SACK the design team they have just put you back 5 years.
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Posted: 2007-10-24 13:43:22
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On 2007-10-24 13:20:50, Nipsen wrote:
On 2007-10-24 12:01:20, aasimtom wrote:
(...)W960i is not a true competitor to the iphone but it is as i mentioned an upgrade to the W950i and thats it. SE will not sit quite because Nokia and Apple is taking a large of amount of markete share not just because of good phones but as long as with the state of the art technology implemented int those phone. We will definatily hear an announcment from SE a so called iphone killer in the first quarter of 2008 in the form of W1i or W3i i guess. If SE doesn't come up with this in the near future, then ppl would get inclined to Iphone and the newly upcoming touchscreen from Nokia (Nokia's Iphone killer), which could lead SE to a disaster.
Sure. But what are they really offering that puts them above - for instance - the w960? As I said, the actual differences between 180Mhz and 320 Mhz on a flash- based file- system is not exactly tremendous. So until we get better batteries, the high- end units will utilize various power- save features, while attempting not to compromise quality too much. Even if, on a walkman phone, there should be some sort of focus on sound and music- player functions. And the w960 doesn't quite offer that - it's the same as usual, and an upgraded version of the w950, with better ram and bigger storage.
So I ask you - what does the iPhone, the n95 or the n81 offer for audiophiles that the w960 doesn't? What about the iPhone killers? What do they offer that's actually new?
The Iphone it seems to me, is being sold purely on its looks, touch screen & it's Ipod lineage. what is to kill? it offers less than most of the other devices
and i personaly think the 30g and above Ipods are old tech anyway flash memeory is by far the best. As for being tied to Itunes there is not enough space here for me to list the reasons not to use it.
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Posted: 2007-10-24 13:50:48
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Mm. So for a walkman- phone with an easy gui, the w910 is an alternative.
http://www.a site/reviews/sony-ericsson-w910i-review/
Unless you want wifi, uiq and touchscreen. In other words, the w960 and n81 are at least actual smartphones. But unless you're going to use any of the functions and apps on s60 or uiq, there are better phones available for that price.
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Posted: 2007-10-24 14:14:41
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On 2007-10-24 13:50:48, Nitro Fan wrote:
On 2007-10-24 13:20:50, Nipsen wrote:
On 2007-10-24 12:01:20, aasimtom wrote:
(...)W960i is not a true competitor to the iphone but it is as i mentioned an upgrade to the W950i and thats it. SE will not sit quite because Nokia and Apple is taking a large of amount of markete share not just because of good phones but as long as with the state of the art technology implemented int those phone. We will definatily hear an announcment from SE a so called iphone killer in the first quarter of 2008 in the form of W1i or W3i i guess. If SE doesn't come up with this in the near future, then ppl would get inclined to Iphone and the newly upcoming touchscreen from Nokia (Nokia's Iphone killer), which could lead SE to a disaster.
Sure. But what are they really offering that puts them above - for instance - the w960? As I said, the actual differences between 180Mhz and 320 Mhz on a flash- based file- system is not exactly tremendous. So until we get better batteries, the high- end units will utilize various power- save features, while attempting not to compromise quality too much. Even if, on a walkman phone, there should be some sort of focus on sound and music- player functions. And the w960 doesn't quite offer that - it's the same as usual, and an upgraded version of the w950, with better ram and bigger storage.
So I ask you - what does the iPhone, the n95 or the n81 offer for audiophiles that the w960 doesn't? What about the iPhone killers? What do they offer that's actually new?
The Iphone it seems to me, is being sold purely on its looks, touch screen & it's Ipod lineage. what is to kill? it offers less than most of the other devices
and i personaly think the 30g and above Ipods are old tech anyway flash memeory is by far the best. As for being tied to Itunes there is not enough space here for me to list the reasons not to use it.
not a big iphone fan just because but i admit. it first to have a touchscreen that works like butter smooth and really can make your experience pleasant. if only it has more indepth pda functions and feature to reallly have cool apps, i think iphone is a great phone to me even if it doesnt feature a hspda freq. yet. heck its better than surfing thru gprs on my p990 in remote locations. sheeeesh
iphone is i think definitely worth the penny. but that is just my opinion.
nokia needs to make a n95 refresh w/ better looking design and a touchscreen, im set.
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Posted: 2007-10-25 02:03:03
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I tend to believe that the SE is no longer the SE that used to be and becoming more like nokia. Mind you, thats really nothing wrong with that and the core objective of making more profits. But the so-called high end models churning out so so slowly is NOT meeting users' expectation (at least mine
). Even UIQ 3.0 (which i do like pretty much esp for moderate users like myself) failed miserably in many aspects.
I think i have spent enough of my money on SE, time to try WM6 and HTC
Good luck and cheers to all
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Posted: 2007-10-25 02:11:23
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What a silly review from M-R ! donno what do they really want? i think this review is missing some objectivity regarding SE ... i still think the w960i is a gr8 package ( the gr8 uiq3.0 + 8gega + 3.2 cam + wifi + a loudest speakers then the w950i + walkman 3.0) i dont care 4 any other sophisticated details ! this phone has everything needed by a normal customer !
i only admit that im not satisfied wiz the live pics... still the w950i is the greatest concerning the look side ... no way to compare the w960i wiz n81 or n95 ... and even if the uiq3.0 is not a new software from SE i think its more more satisfyin then the nokia N series ! so plz stop nagging :S
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Posted: 2007-10-25 16:05:28
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well said chadi.
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Posted: 2007-10-25 16:07:19
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