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Dude, are you even capable of saying that the N95 has a better reception than W960? Have you got the phones or have you had them? OK, thought so. It appears that I do in fact own the W960 right now and have recently sold my old N95 because I was extremely tired of it.

Again, W960 is way better than N95 at picking up networks and the b/g standards has nothing to do with the reception strength (in case you didn't know).

And no, I never said that B gets full signals, I named an example where I got one at full connection strength and three others that none of the computers nor smart phones found, with the exception of my home computer that found one of the networks.

And how dare you say that I need a life when you're the one making those replies???????


@Dogmann

So, you're saying that the P990 and W960 share the same hardware, right? And thereby also WLAN chip. So the results should be the same. How's this? The picture was taken right after the phones had completed a WLAN search and I have not moved the anywhere - this is where they were (right next to each other) when searching.



Explanation, please.
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Posted: 2008-01-10 14:46:15
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@Mizzzle

The P990 was a complete and utter piece of **** the W960 is obviously improved over the last year and a bit as they have worked on it but it still uses the now ancient Nexperia chip which is why it doesn't have HSDPA in a smart phone that launched end of 2007 and still no decent Video recording either.

Go read Steve Litchfields review over @ALL ABOUT SYMBIAN as even he says it is the best UIQ3 devcie so far but please don't try and tell me it is technically advanced or is running anywhere near cutting edge hardware as I'll just laugh at you.

As for your incredible WiFi findings all i can say is i have never had any problem either finding or connecting to any Network on any of my E series or N series devcies. Maybe you had a bad N95, what firmware did it have? as i have never had any problems with either the original or 8GB. But to be honest for some one that has such an extreme bias towards SE it really is hard to accept your statements as truth as others appear to think as well not just me.

One last thing i noticed in the picture how come the W960 doesn't have the blue triangle over the signal indicator? and also why are both phones on mute?

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-01-10 14:24 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-10 15:17:18
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But that's what you've been saying all along isn't it? That it makes use of the same old crap and that it's the same performance.

I don't need to read Steve's review - mainly because he's a hardcore Nokia & S60 addict, but because I've had mine for a longer time than he has and I know much more about UIQ than he'll ever know. Besides, I've done a much larger review of the phone myself with the conclusion that it's the best phone atm.

No, I'm not saying I had any WLAN problems with it myself with the exception of when I was in my room and it had extreme difficulties in finding the network. But now that I've got W960 and can see that not only does it perform excellent where the N95 did as well, but also in my room, which in my opinion makes it the best in terms of network reception. The fact that it - on the paper - does not support g networks has nothing to do with this, and I think we should not discuss it in this thread Anyway, the N95 was on the latest (I can't remember what it was called - v20 or something?) - the one with demand paging.
Please cut the crap about the bias. Sure, I love products, but I'm in no way biased. Why do you think I even got a N95 in the first place? Simply because I was sick of laying on its back and I wanted something new with more features. But now that I've got the W960 I have no regrets selling my N95, and for me, W960 feels like a much better phone that does what SE said it would (not like Nokia saying the N95 is your tour guide on travels, and then turns out to have a crappy GPS). Agreed, it's not the most feature rich smart phone out there, but it sure as hell is in the top league. And it sure as hell performs like it's suppose to

Oh, that's just because I'm using a PAYG SIM on W960 and there is no more money on the SIM, so GPRS is disabled from the operator until I put on more money About mute, that's just how I like them
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Posted: 2008-01-10 15:43:12
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@Mizzle

Well besides your modesty amazing me as you really believe you know more than some one that actually earns there living as a technical reviewer of all smart phones not just S60. Who also has many years experience and knowledge on you at your age and has most probably forgotten more than you actually know well what can i say other than i am truly stunned at your arrogance and over inflated self worth I'm surprised you and your ego can fit in the same room.

Well how about you swap the Sims then as i am interested to see what happens when the GPRS signal is being sent and received and if that will effect the performance of the WiFi strength or not as 3 of those Networks hardly show a signal at all and the P990 is only one off the full signal of 3 as opposed to 5 available for the W960 be interesting to see if that makes a difference or not as both should be compared under exactly the same conditions shouldn't they? for a for a fair comparison.

Also if you had bothered reading any of my posts or reviews you would know that i consider any built in GPS to be bad and an inferior solution to using a separate GPS Receiver and my Sat Nav software of choice is Tom Tom 6.

Sorry i really can't see how you consider a smart phone that doesn't have HSDPA late 2007 early 2008 to be top league I'll excuse the poor under powered processor or the fact it takes 5 seconds the first time you try to open messages or Calendar as due to the extra Ram they can now be left running in the background. But sorry you are only fooling yourself if you think the W960 is top performing smart phone it is a patched up W950 nothing more and nothing less. Until SE release there next generation of smart phone they are all still running 2006 spec with some extra Ram and much need shortcuts which were missing in the original devcies, you really aren't fooling anyone with your claims.

One last thing is it really necessary to quote my whole post from directly above you as many visit Esato via thier mobiles or even Wap and all that extra scrolling for no good reason really is tedious for them. Please be a little more considerate to your fellow Esato users.

Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-01-12 21:00 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-10 15:57:11
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I'm speaking the truth. They should have had Rafe reviewing the phone as he's way more talented in regards to UIQ, while Steve should have stuck to S60 articles and reviews. Anyhow, that's not what this thread is about, is it.

There's absolutely no difference. The SIM used in the P990 was a PAYG card as well with no money on it. GPRS, calls, texts, etc. doesn't work no matter what. Anyhow the result was the same, when there was money on the W960 sim card.

(I have read your reviews of the N95 GPS, and agree, btw, but that's still not the point of this thread. And neither is the fact about quotes, but for the good sake of the ones caring about a kilobyte more on the data expenses when using WAP, this post is without quotes )
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Posted: 2008-01-10 16:12:53
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Dogmann: My statement stays, there is nothing in your post that proved otherwise and I have never denied that the new firmware has better battery life. Just said that it wasnt caused by "Demand paging".

Anyway, the change that increases the battery life is likely in Symbian v9.3+ and that means it will come to SE phones as well when they upgrade from Symbian v9.2 that is used now.

I agree with you that SE definately needs to improve their high end UIQ phones. They are currently lagging behind Nokia and it started when they got problems with P990 and then tried to release 2 other UIQ phones simultaneous (M600 and W950). I guess it was tougher than what they believed! P1i and W960 is a clear step in the right direction but an upgrade to Symbian 9.3 or later would definately improve their application start up performance due to "Demand paging".
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Posted: 2008-01-10 20:05:37
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well, arent we all goin off topic???

sum1 create a w960i vs n95 8gb thread lol....


anyways,
wifi reception in w960i is better than n95 8gb, i have seen this n so did my friends, n if i get time i will get u its photo(got my final exams commin up).

And pete, hopefully i will get u w960i vs n95 8gb video comparison of the same thing(hopefully i will meet my friend soon), maybe this will help u better to understand the difference.
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Posted: 2008-01-10 22:44:36
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Well here is a video I just shot after I finished reading the last post.

ENJOY! Oh yeah this is with the N95-2 8 GB

http://www.pseudo-tripp.net/video/N95video_640x480.mp4

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Forgot to mention its about 10MB, Righr-Click and Save As.

[ This Message was edited by: SIGHUP on 2008-01-11 01:18 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-11 02:14:31
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dogmann has a point there,nokia is really improving alot and i mean alot towards their softwares and hardware. Even i myself hate nokia but when nokia n95 8gb was release,its features and capabilities are superb but only lacks touchscreen(this is only my opinion) because some SE fans love touchscreen maybe that's holding them off with the w960. If nokia n95 8 gb has a touchscreen i'll be living SE for good.. back to the topic, Can a 802.11b can get a signal from a 802.11g router?? Is it really possible that a B router is much stronger than G?I think that is impossible because they used different chips.
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Posted: 2008-01-11 04:30:36
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Nokia basically has SE beaten long time ago when it successfully put a full OS (S60) into a non-touchscreen mainstream phone whilst SE concentrated on putting eye-candy into the A100/200 platform.





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Posted: 2008-01-11 04:57:59
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