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good news, bad news...

shutter speed command equivalent:

#SET(29,xx) // shutter speed value
#CMD(02,02) // AE shutter speed priority (ISO fixed at 100)

values for xx can be found on raider.4shared.com in manual_by_SPU.html. they are for K750 but should also match in K800

at the moment this find is for nothing. you cannot build EM code in K800 because every changes (exposure, contrast, saturation etc.) in cam_ss_start are not applied! haha! ok, at least we have manual shutter speed control for supermode drivers

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[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2008-02-06 17:13 ]
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Posted: 2008-02-06 18:11:18
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Your're the man !

But I did't get the bad news right....maybe because I don't know much about EM as K800 is my first.

What you mean with "applied". I see from protoptype that I set specific settings in color, ISO, focus etc. to my needs and shoot. And in the shot taken, they are applied.
Do you mean the values for "special custom programs" like for example
NIGHT Portrait (1/20, ISO 200, Focus=1.8m, color=1)
aren't called at a EV/ZoomStep combination ?

Of course with that #COM_EVENT(02,xx) must be set to wanted prority first or conflict occurs.

Edit: OK, I see there's difference between Supermode and EM. For SM it should work, I'll try that. EM I don't know but I'll try to learn....

[ This Message was edited by: pietropizzi on 2008-02-06 18:26 ]
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Posted: 2008-02-06 19:21:47
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my mistake, not everyone have to know how typical EM is working so, small explanation...

snapshot sequence looks like this:

seq_ss_start
seq_ss_take
seq_ss_verify
seq_ss_stop

sequence with EM:

seq_ss_start seq_ss_take
seq_ss_verify
seq_ss_stop
in this way EM is enabled only in snapshot process as it should be

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the problem is in seq_ss_ because you cannot change parameters in it. for example: you can add to seq_ss_start/take code to change contrast before snapshot but it won't take any effect - contrast command is 'unvisible' and not only contrast but almost everything else too

oh crap

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[ This Message was edited by: Raiderski on 2008-02-06 19:24 ]
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Posted: 2008-02-06 20:23:40
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OMG
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Posted: 2008-02-06 20:50:03
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my top list of most irritating problems

1. impossible changes of image parameters in seq_ss_X
2. AE lock doesn't work on landscape scenes (infinity focus)
3. AF macro range only scan doesn't exist
4. bilinear filtering (zoom) cannot be disabled
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Posted: 2008-02-06 21:01:25
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this
#SET(29,xx) // shutter speed value
#CMD(02,02) // AE shutter speed priority (ISO fixed at 100)
is completey useless for a few reasons,
iso is always 100, it also slows down the viewfinder fps to achieve the shutterspeeds like #COM_EVENT(03,xx), it also clashes with the iso
might aswell just use #COM_EVENT(03,xx)
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Posted: 2008-02-07 11:21:43
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sorry number1 but you wrote bullshits!

before you call something "useless" learn more about that thing or if you're so smart then do something more "useful". you don't have to be photography expert to understand how something is working but you shouldn't be ignoramus or fake expert. dude, get k750 in your hands and try 6.7.2 with manual shutter speed and manual shutter speed preview. after this experience you should understand how manual shutter speed can work in perfect way without disadvantages. ISO100 is problem? don't be ridiculous

i'm waiting for your discoveries mr. "smart"...
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Posted: 2008-02-07 11:40:08
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i broke my k750i due to a stupid error shows how smart i am, but i used to use 1 of kriomags driver with manual shutter speed yes it was very useful i could set my own iso and shutter speed, no the shutter speed had no disadvantages on the k750i, but in the k800i it's stuck with iso 100 it is a problem it will be too dark most the time so you will need to always use a lower shutter speed to get a brighter picture, also it seems to be slowing down the viewfinder to achieve the shutter speeds which it never did on my k750i.
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Posted: 2008-02-07 11:56:32
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1. ISO100 isn't SE engineers fiction. only with ISO100 you will achieve exact shutter speed (SS). if you set 1/500s then picture will have 1/500s of exposure time

2. SS in k750 was equivalent of real SS. you can set SS but final effect isn't exact exposure time because it was always compilation of your shutter speed and automatic ISO. final effect - faster shutter speed but higher ISO. beautiful noise and not exact exposure time - this isn't real manual SS. i don't need mess, if i set 1/500s then i want 1/500s. first time real SS in k750 was in 6.6.1

3. maybe you won't believe but most users of k750 demanded ISO100 pictures



1. you set SS to 2s and you want 15fps viewfinder refresh rate? from what if image samples are ready to display after 2s gaps? if your k750 was insensitive for this effect then it was magical phone

2. slowed down viewfinder is annoying and disturb AF (if focusing is longer than 5sec then you can't take pic). that's why i created manual SS preview:

with it you can virtually change SS as you wan't without any influence on viewfinder. if you want to take pic then you're doing half press to focus and full press to snapshot. short before snapshot process (when viewfinder refresh isn't active) manual SS is enabled and final pic has exact exposure time. after snapshot automatic SS is restored

with preview you can even see how selected manual SS looks like on viewfinder - you can enable/disable preview with half press

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Posted: 2008-02-07 12:30:27
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That's perfect
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Posted: 2008-02-07 12:35:44
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