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scotland67 Posts: 40


On 2008-03-05 10:55:48, tesssst wrote:

Have you actually tried this?
Because I have and it doesn't work - both on 3g and GSM - "temporary unavailable"
I get the ID alright in the about

So anyone that actually TRIED it and knows how it works - pls do enlighten us

thank you


YES...
Last Friday when I was initially having probs getting My Location to work - I was in office/same location all day with good 3G signal - My Location did NOT work.

On way home, 3G signal drops in/out constantly (travelling on train), and the My Location was working tracking my position all way home (from the non-3G signals I guess).

At home, I then disabled 3G via settings, and consistently the My Location worked. Switch 3G back on via settings - My Location did NOT work.

However, haven't confirmed the WIFI part.
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Posted: 2008-03-05 12:35:48
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Kashee Posts: 4

Brilliant! Love it. Worked like a treat on my W960i. Would be nice if you could sign in with your Google ID and access your saved favourite maps.
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Posted: 2008-03-05 12:36:54
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MnM Posts: 185

Can't seem to get My Location working except on WLAN - as this is at home I already knowwhere I am anyway.

Also it does not have Favorites as on the Vodafone Java edition - this was quite useful.

Incidentally why the suggestion that My Location is triangulating off base stations? I think it is just showing location of the base station with strongest signal. Thoughts anyone.

Incidentally I'm on Vodafone UK
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Posted: 2008-03-05 14:07:18
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doministry Posts: > 500

Guys My Location has NOTHING to do with 3G.
In my city, where full 3G signal is everywhere,
where I live this feature in unavailable,
but in different parts of the city it works perfectly.
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Posted: 2008-03-05 14:42:01
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mobman Posts: > 500

it just seems to me that some of the 3g masts that o2 use are not in googles database - i'm sure this can be fixed. the program does not triangulate - it seems to place the dot where the mast is located.

when i'm at home (with 3g off) the my location feature always works and it shifts between 2 masts around 1500m apart. Its a shame it doesn't use info from both masts because if it did it would be far more accurate.
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Posted: 2008-03-05 15:26:50
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only me Posts: 79

@mnm I had the same problem with my location last night, solved it when I found out google maps was using the wap connection account rather than the gprs connection account. I had to remove the wap account, login to google maps, use my location on gprs then after my location was working i put the wap account back on my phone. Not sure why it wouldn't just pickup the gprs account but it's working now.
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Posted: 2008-03-05 15:35:48
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defiantbeast Posts: 257

I cant seem to get this app to work. When i first loaded it last week it worked just fine the first 2 or 3 times i used it. Now i cant even get an image of the map to load. Im in the US on tmobile, ive tried setting the phone to gsm only to no avail (not that it would matter as tmobile US has no 3g yet). Ive even tried wifi again nothing. Anyone have any suggestions. Anyone in the US been able to get thier p1i or w960i to use this app?
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Posted: 2008-03-05 15:57:04
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tesssst Posts: 98


On 2008-03-05 14:07:18, MnM wrote:
Can't seem to get My Location working except on WLAN - as this is at home I already know where I am anyway.



It is not working for me on WLAN - are you on 3G or normal GSM when doing that?
And you're 100% sure your data transfers are going out through WLAN and not some Operator GPRS or something data plan?
To the other guy: You can tell the GM app exactly which connection to use - there is a special menu option, so pls ppl check to see what connection you're using before posting


The Way I see it, Scotland67's Idea could have a point - it could get the ID through GSM or 3g and send it over the WIFI - but since it is not working on WLAN here I doubt this is the case
Although I can not test it through GSM or 3G alone either - could be that they don't know the Cell IDs here...

The other option is - depending on connection
if GSM or 3G - use the Cell Information
if on WLAN - use WI FI hot spots in the area...

I dunno - unless someone confirms and proves that this thing works on WLAN (alone) I am going to assume that it DOES NOT WORK ON WLAN alone...

Ah and yeah - it uses 3 to triangulate it to make it more accurate (if available I guess)
If you're outside a city, using only one available cell it could mean a radios of about 2-3kms
Even inside a city, standing on a hill overlooking the main city, you can still pick up a strong Cell down in the city area - so the 3 Cell option is for accuracy only

[ This Message was edited by: tesssst on 2008-03-05 15:25 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-05 16:23:51
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AD Posts: > 500

Well, this is how Google say it works...

"Mobile towers are placed by operators throughout an area to provide coverage for their users. Each of these towers has its own individual coverage area, usually split into three non-overlapping sections known as "cells." These cells come with identification numbers, but no location information. Google takes geo-contextual information [from anonymous GPS-readings, etc] and associates this information with the cell at that location to develop a database of cell locations. Based on this information, Google uses various algorithms to approximate your location relative to the cells nearest you. The accuracy of this information depends on how big an individual cell is. Thus, areas with a denser concentration of mobile towers allow for a more accurate My Location reading. Additionally, as our database of cell locations continues to improve, so too does the accuracy and coverage of the My Location feature. "

quoted from the FAQ here:

http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/topic.py?topic=9112


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Posted: 2008-03-05 18:07:09
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kenzaburo Posts: 3

Well, downloaded google maps just today and I can say this app works good on my P1, I am very happy with it. i have no problem with 'my location' feature - to my surprise its quite accurate, it tells me I'm in range of 5000m whitch is represented by a blue circle...I'm in it - so its ok! I live in 200k city with good 3g coverage but i always keep it off to save battery. Couple of months ago I disabled GPRS transmission and since buying my P1 i havent used it, so for browsing I'am ONLY using WLAN connection. I have no idea how 'my location' works just on wifi but since it does the magic...
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Posted: 2008-03-06 00:26:23
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