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k850i flash pics:
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Posted: 2008-05-14 23:16:30
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Unless there is a lot of light in a room, K850 is better. Lower iso on flash pictures, clearer and sharper than K800/K810.
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Posted: 2008-05-15 09:48:39
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Thanks for all the photos... Yeah, it's pretty clear that the K850i has better flash quality. And the photos are becoming pretty good, also.
Gotta make up my mind, either spend a pretty small amount of money (less than I've spent on the K750i two years ago) on the K800i and an M2 card, and use it with its own headset, since it has a play/pause button, or spend more than twice that sum on a K850i and buy an M2 card and better headset, to get the play/pause button...
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Posted: 2008-05-16 10:00:52
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For me, the best SE camera phone at the moment is K770i. I've tested K550i, K850i, K770i and I own K800i, so I can surely say that K770i is the best among the Cyber-shot line up simply because photos taken with K770i don't have that awful ''watercolor'' effect!
Since you've been talking about xenon flashes in K800i/K810 & K850i here's my advice. K800i has weaker flash than K850i, but they both produce watercolor effect. I remember how good K750i + MXE-60 was.
I get pretty good low light & night flash photos with my K800i, but with UCD 2.44.
All samples taken with Twilight portrait + RER flash!
Some examples:
But they still can't beat my K750i(CID 49) + MXE-60 night photos. They even beat K850i flash photos when it comes to ''watercolor efect'', noise & colors!
(All taken with original K750i cam driver + MXE-60 external xenon flash) :
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Posted: 2008-05-16 16:03:15
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agree with salih
k770 have the best picture quality, and k800 and k850 cant beat k750+extrenal flash in term of picture quality and colors.
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Posted: 2008-05-16 16:23:38
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the water colour of hte K800 is a real let down - it was the only thing that really disappointed me about the K800.
K750 + MXE is definately better, and even the K750 with only it's own light is better at close range than K800. Not to mention macro. The K800 flash drowns out detail on macro shots where the K750 light is just perfect. Not only that on macro shots the K800 focus beam is so bright it reflects strongly off the subject preventing the camera from focussing properly. I've found to focus macro's I usually have to put my finger over the focus-assist beam when focussing.
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Posted: 2008-05-17 02:18:38
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On 2008-05-17 02:18:38, max_wedge wrote:
the water colour of hte K800 is a real let down - it was the only thing that really disappointed me about the K800.
K750 + MXE is definately better, and even the K750 with only it's own light is better at close range than K800. Not to mention macro. The K800 flash drowns out detail on macro shots where the K750 light is just perfect. Not only that on macro shots the K800 focus beam is so bright it reflects strongly off the subject preventing the camera from focussing properly. I've found to focus macro's I usually have to put my finger over the focus-assist beam when focussing.
My K800 flash doesn't drown out details - it actually works very very well. In my experience the K850 flash tends to overblow everything, not the K800. Still, even using the flash, the K800/K850 keeps the camera running at ISO 400, causing the noise reduction to kick into overdrive. The result? The smears or "water painting" effect that everyone describes it as.
I prefer a bit of chromatic noise in my shots which I can easily remove on my PC, rather than the camera attempting to smear that noise away so I can't see it anymore. After all, there is no way to get that detail back once its been smeared away.
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Posted: 2008-05-17 02:42:52
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@max_wedge - I totally agree with you!
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Posted: 2008-05-17 12:31:34
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with auto settings i get best pics with my k810, BUT if i "preload" my k850 with proper settings i get easily best quality with k850.
he he he. some of you guys who says that k800 have stronger flash then K850....are you for real ?
K850 flash is much better then k800/k810 week flash. it produce sharper & better colors at longer distance. (only times i get good flash pics with my k800 & k810 was on Macro)
k850 flash. distance ca 3m
K850 flash. distance ca 2m
k850 flash. distance ca 1m
k850 flash. distance ca 20cm
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(t610, t630, k700, k750, k800, k810)
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-05-17 11:54 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-17 12:47:34
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@plankgatan - This is what I said:
Since you've been talking about xenon flashes in K800i/K810 & K850i here's my advice. K800i has weaker flash than K850i, but they both produce watercolor effect. I remember how good K750i + MXE-60 was.
p.s. Have you seen my K750i+MXE-60 photos on the previous page, they look much better than your K850i photos (no ''watercolor''/''oilpaint'' effect)!
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Posted: 2008-05-17 13:07:09
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