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@ RLP06 - Glad I could help
- welcome back to the fold
I really do think these devices are amazing - I was enthusing to a mate of mine who was contemplating getting a G900 and showing him all the stuff and mods that I have loaded on mine... That same evening I got an email from him - he'd just bought one on ebay for £135 including TomTom6 and GPS unit
- what an awesome deal!
I can't believe people go out and buy 'lesser' phones
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Posted: 2008-05-28 13:00:20
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Well it appears that I am in the minority here with so many people happy with their P1. This makes me believe that there might be a problem with my particular set up. I don't know how people can say their phone is fast though. it takes over 7 seconds to launch messaging on a freshly booted machine with no other apps running. There is no feedback either so you really aren't sure if the app launched or not.
Well, install "Fastcall", or map the @ button on the side to the task- manager. And use it to switch between programs. It's pretty robust. Only hangs I've had so far because of this was when leaving a coreplayer youtube stream running in the background once.
Another thing that helps a bit is to use the drop- down menu on the standby screen to go to the inboxes and so on. Basically, it's two clicks for a new message, instead of three from the drop- down menu.. and then waiting all day.
But the one thing that I still disagree with is when people claim the OS doesn't suck. It does. Example: sometimes the "close" button is the return arrow at the top right. sometimes it's a little "x". sometimes it's a "done" soft button. sometimes something else. From a user standpoint, this inconsistency leads to errors and/or slowed use. This type of inconsistency is all throughout the OS and it is not good for the user.
That's just the UI. And they chose a back arrow to drop programs into the background (unlike WM, where you have a cross for about the same function - something they've been wrestling with for a long while, arguing that "Windows should take care of the memory handling, not the user", and so on. And the cross apparently makes more sense to some).
But it's skinnable, so you can get anything you want for the "back" in the program area. And then skin the smaller "close" one in the dialog- boxes to an arrow as well. Most themes have some sort of combination, though, and that's... I use a theme with back- arrows only. The "continue" boxes you have to push done on are supposed to be used when you get different alerts and so on that can't be canceled.
As for the programs using different dialogues, and then keep dropping the wrong functions into the soft- button setup - that's up to the programmer of the apps. Example - the notifications for new sms and alarms are supposed to have different priorities, so they'll show up in order, and so on. And one of them times out, the other has to be pushed. Which somehow always tends to cause some sort of problem - apparently everyone has had some sort of trouble when getting an sms right before an alarm goes off. And I don't think anyone with a working UIQ phone enable those popup alerts. But that's a problem with the implementation - there's no real problem actually making the sms- alerts drop off after a few minutes, instead of leaving the notifications up so that they have to be replaced by some hardcoded routine that kills the wrong notification, and so on..
But I don't know. I have tried a WM device, so I probably shouldn't complain.
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Posted: 2008-05-28 14:57:12
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Hi all
Well i hope most of you are sitting down as we don't won't any accidents.
But i agree with Ares when he says
"nokia does not make anything like it (i want qwerty + touch screen),"
As that is 100% correct they currently don't and it looks like their first Touch Screen will be a Multimedia device not a business focused one.
I used and loved UIQ all the way to UIQ3 but sorry on launch that was rubbish and unlike some waiting the best part of a year for it to reach where it should of been on launch wasn't for me.
The only problem i have still with UIQ is the fact it hasn't been able to reach it's potential and doesn't offer me the hardware and support i want. Now that really is the only problem i have with it and until such time as it does have the hardware and support i want it there is just nothing to choose from the UIQ range.
I have also learned much to my surprise over the last two years that a touch screen just isn't as important to me as i once thought. I am not saying it doesn't have to be for anyone else but for me it just isn't any longer.
@Koto
Please you must realise by now that the N series is multimedia focused and that E series is business focused to suggest that all Nokia's are multimedia focused is just a joke. My E90 handles any business task you care to through at it and it's large 4" screen is unbeatable for working on Doc's, Web browsing or even watching multimedia. You may not like S60 or the fact it lacks a touchscreen but to suggest it is just for multimedia is just without foundation please get real.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-05-28 15:32 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-28 16:30:48
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On 2008-05-27 17:53:10, myth® wrote:
On 2008-05-27 17:49:34, ares wrote:
nokia does not make anything like it (i want qwerty + touch screen)
So when will Marc drop in ?
Place your bets..
almost 24h...sorry Marc, had to do it
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[ This Message was edited by: ares on 2008-05-28 16:19 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-28 16:53:25
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i like p1i , compared to p990i .
But i cant stand SE anymore . i am so pissed off at their pc suite.
I cant understand why after all these years they can fix the PC suite.
I loved n95-8gb , just for the good pc sync. Even its bluetooth was so perfect. The moment i stepped into my room , my pc and handset are sync'd
Gopu
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Posted: 2008-05-28 17:18:31
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On 2008-05-28 10:01:59, myth® wrote:
@hosehead
And in order to check if you have a version which is customized for your country or by your operator, you have to check the CDA.
ok, thanks.
CDA: 162022/3 R6G02
does this tell you anything? if it's an operator firmware, i will be really pissed off since i specified very clearly when i bought it that i want a neutral phone.
@many others:
i do keep the mail app open and in the background and switch between apps. i do use the features of the phone.
with regards to the "return arrow" it isn't just the symbol i'm referring to. that's irrelevant. what i'm referring to is the inconsistency of the location between apps to do the same thing. close, back, done, end, whatever. i've had the phone since last august and it still takes me ages to find what i'm looking for sometimes.
if your mail app launches in 4 seconds, that's nearly half the time it takes me to launch mine. plus, i was quoting that figure because it demonstrates the slowness of my phone. of course i leave it running and switch to it with no delay.
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Posted: 2008-05-28 17:59:38
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maybe you got a defective unit perhaps.... try to change it... for me it has been like a charm...
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Posted: 2008-05-28 18:22:13
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@hosehead
No, it's not branded.
It's GW3.
Maybe a reflash might help...
[ This Message was edited by: myth® on 2008-05-28 17:36 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-28 18:24:26
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On 2008-05-28 17:59:38, hosehead wrote:
@many others:
i do keep the mail app open and in the background and switch between apps. i do use the features of the phone.
Just checking. Took me three weeks to figure out I didn't have to "minimize" programs and go back to the start screen every time I changed a program..
with regards to the "return arrow" it isn't just the symbol i'm referring to. that's irrelevant. what i'm referring to is the inconsistency of the location between apps to do the same thing. close, back, done, end, whatever. i've had the phone since last august and it still takes me ages to find what i'm looking for sometimes.
It's definitively easier if you just ignore all of that, and call up the task- menu. Most apps either restart at some standard screen when you open them again, if it doesn't end up at the same screen as before anyway.. (and I thought the "go back" thing was really clever..
skipping back to the main view, and then going back to the previous screen you were on, and so on.. I liked that about the message- app - if you launch a new message from the drop- down menu, you go (..almost).. right back to where you were when you click the "back" button..)
if your mail app launches in 4 seconds, that's nearly half the time it takes me to launch mine. plus, i was quoting that figure because it demonstrates the slowness of my phone. of course i leave it running and switch to it with no delay.
Mine takes about three- four seconds, too. Then it's three- four new seconds to start the "new message" screen. I think I timed around six seconds when using the drop- down menu. (well....at least typing is pretty fast).
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Posted: 2008-05-28 18:41:01
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