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On 2008-08-11 23:39:52, rambo47 wrote:
re: Eldar
There is no excuse for a shoddy review. We don't need "support" for SE from him. SE doesn't need it either. What I expect from him - or anyone doing a review - is a good, real-world review. Facts. An unbiased/unrigged test. And let the chips fall where they may. That's kinda the point of a review, no?
Garbage like that shoots Eldar's credibility right in the foot. What's the point of reading another fanboi rant? That's what a bogus job like this turns his work into. I guess I'll have to look elsewhere for real reviews. He becomes just one more tosser on the net with an opinion. And his is biased. Pffft.
would you rather read a review that ignores SEs many failings?
[ This Message was edited by: Brightspark on 2008-08-11 23:18 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-12 00:18:32
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On 2008-08-11 23:14:55, GUCCI.011 wrote:
K810-NightBlade Edition.
I agree with Eldar about the Xenon.
Well, why don't phonemakers abandon xenon flashes altogether, huh?
Sheesh.
BTW, Mizzle, you're right. The pic was at least 50% brighter!
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[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2008-08-11 23:44 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-12 00:43:14
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On 2008-08-12 00:43:14, NightBlade wrote:
BTW, Mizzle, you're right. The pic was at least 50% brighter!
Once again the skill of the photographer triumphs. Point and shoot is for amateurs.
On 2008-08-11 13:10:03, AbuBasim wrote:
...You mean this?
Speaking of the i8510's flash, it's a run-of-the-mill LED unit, which is, of course, a bit disappointing, given the camera's otherwise stellar specs. But let's be honest here, even Xenon flash units (like the ones found in the Nokia N82, Motorola ZN5, and some Sony Ericsson branded handsets) can't make a world of difference in terms of image quality. There are several valid reasons for that, and the main one is that the cameras built into mobile phones can't provide decent quality in low light these days, and in this case no flash in the world will mend this glitch. So, as far as the Samsung i8510 goes, the absence of a xenon flash module only means they won't have an extra selling point to brag about in commercials, but that's about it.
Remember the context in which Eldar makes this statement: he reviews prototype phones in an unfinished form. He does this on purpose to be first on the internet with information which gets him many hits on his website, which then generates advertising revenue and notoriety. Otherwise he would wait for release like the real press do and review a finished product in it's proper context.
Why go over and over this topic? Don't people realise the internet is full of dodgy information? Take everything you read with a heathly dose of salt (Is salt healthy ?!?)
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Posted: 2008-08-12 01:12:47
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Some of the replies blindly defending SE are just so amusing. SE should be a religion for some of you hardcore fanboys. "SE'ism"?!
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Posted: 2008-08-12 03:02:18
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if nokia is in the same plight, you'll going to hear a lot from "nokia-ism"...
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Posted: 2008-08-12 06:14:50
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^ Already getting emotional and willing to kill or be killed for SE?!
It's only SE and they just make cellphones and accessories. Save the enthusiasm and dedication for something more valuable and meaningful in life my friend.
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Posted: 2008-08-12 08:34:14
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On 2008-08-11 14:58:29, troublesam wrote:
If you're so damn disgusted with SE then why you're all still here??
We paid lots of money for SE products but end of it; it’s not came as they promised. So it is natural that we become shocked with SE. May be SE gives you, mobiles as gift or free, but they don’t give us, we have to buy and after paid we have right to talk about it. Esato is a public place.
Why don’t you open your own forum and become an only member of it. Nobody is going to disturb you on there.
May be some time we debate each other here, but I believe all Esato member are friends, were and will. I think what type of friend you are that shows on first part of your ID.
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Posted: 2008-08-12 08:49:57
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eldar is getting more subjective/personal than objective. and before he start the reviews he has fault in his mind already.
anyway i guess that is how he lives..
SE should not toss its new phones either proto or not to eldar. He is mocking them mostly.
anyway there is esato as an info hub..
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Posted: 2008-08-12 08:51:04
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On 2008-08-12 00:43:14, NightBlade wrote:
On 2008-08-11 23:14:55, GUCCI.011 wrote:
K810-NightBlade Edition.
I agree with Eldar about the Xenon.
Well, why don't phonemakers abandon xenon flashes altogether, huh?
Sheesh.
BTW, Mizzle, you're right. The pic was at least 50% brighter!
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[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2008-08-11 23:44 ]
Because they wont have much else to boast about when advertising their Imaging Flagships, just the megapixel count.
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Posted: 2008-08-12 09:39:24
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phones manufacturers doesn't even know what they want to do with camera. this isn't rat race between manufacturers but simplest way to find new customers with "special care" strategy for idiots like selling small compact cameras with 13MP. this strategy is working fine
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Posted: 2008-08-12 10:12:24
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