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There is too much of a stigma attached with muslims in UK and the rest of Europe. And with fears of Sharia law being introduced here the general population feel that there are plans to ultimatley turn Britain into an Islamic state. I wouldnt't expect to see a Muslim PM for at least 30 - 50 years.
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Posted: 2008-11-05 13:43:03
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America(obviously)has bigger population than UK and bigger black population. So does France and Germany. France has 6 million muslims but i still dont see a black or muslim leader in any of these countries happening. Not in my lifetime anyway. But another thing that gets me the world over and especially in UK US FRANCE and so on. Every leader says CHANGE WILL HAPPEN and the people get excited. But in reality it never happens. Obama has alot of work to do from the damage caused by bloody Bush. But i dont see it happening im afraid. Unless Obama being the type of guy he is can establish good relations with the middle east.
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Posted: 2008-11-05 14:03:00
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You cant compare Muslims to Black people in terms of getting elected. There is an ongoing war in Iraq and Afghanistan and whilst we will eventually pull out of Iraq I wouldn't expect us to pull troops out of Afghanistan for at least 10 years at the earliest. Obama has even said he will send more troops into Afghanistan.
Then there is the problem of religion and how big a part that plays in the beliefs of some of these nations. It's just too messy to see anything like the Obama situation arising.
It's nice to see so many people celebrating in the streets (white and black). I dont think America has this since John Kennedy. I cant wait to see his inaugeration. lol Should be quite different to Bush's last inaugeration in which he had to sit in his limo as it was pelted with eggs haha
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Posted: 2008-11-05 14:15:30
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congratulations to barak hossein obama on the massive victory...
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Posted: 2008-11-05 14:36:00
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On 2008-11-05 14:15:30, bavlondon2 wrote:
Bush's last inaugeration in which he had to sit in his limo as it was pelted with eggs haha
that is one of michael moore's inventions! He fiddled the footage!!! Watch 'manufacturing dissent'!!!
As to 'you can't compare muslim amd black'... So it's vacant?! No real progress, right?!
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Posted: 2008-11-05 15:14:07
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Nah I cant see any with Afghanistan and Iraq goign on. Not to mention Israel/Palestine and Iran.
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Posted: 2008-11-05 15:29:02
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that's foreign policy though. There's internal US policy that he can hope to make a difference. if he does, he'll extend his mandate for another 4 years. In 8 yrs, who knows where the world will be? Things were slightly different 8 years ago........
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Posted: 2008-11-05 15:48:48
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I think the fact that we have seen such a dominant show from the Democrats (Presidential/Senate & Congress) then we could be witnessing a very strong coalistion that could well take the next 2 or 3 terms with ease. But there is lots of work to do.
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Posted: 2008-11-05 15:57:01
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Nbama isnt the first black presedant because his mother is white. Also i think mcain is the winner today as obama is going to have 4 years of hell. Hes got to withdraw from iraq but not to soon. He has got to go through the financial crisis and stop wwiii
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Posted: 2008-11-05 23:28:21
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On 2008-11-05 12:17:02, gforce23 wrote:
...France has a lot of immigrants from northern Africa, so I'd say that would be the country most likely to have either (or both) demographic as president. I may be completely wrong though.
That would worry me immensely. I'm old enough to remember France's state sponsored bombing of a Greenpeace protest boat in Auckland Harbour in 1985.
Expert opinion (not mine
) says that while Obama may pull out of Iraq, he can't pull out of Afghanistan, in fact more work (troops) is needed there.
And the real financial crisis is just beginning. According to Fortune magazine the first American baby boomer to apply for retirement earlier this year will be followed closely behind by another 78 million others over the next 17 yrs. Major problems lie ahead for the US economy and they are in the worst possible shape to start from.
Also the smart money says to watch the Iranian elections next year as president Ahmadinejad will be under pressure as the falling price of oil leaves his financial mismanagement exposed. This could cause instability in the region and more political/financial problems for Obama and the US.
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