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Wow upon reading this thread you made me realize im screwed if i go with nokia instead of SE for my next phone. Thank you for doing that. I gues now that SE does come as the best UI for simplicity. And its not smart technology but nice simple flash/jave based. A bit repetitive but useful more or less.
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Posted: 2009-01-10 14:08:16
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I owned a P990, changed for a N78 i miss those little stuff of but is ok with Nokia for now.
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Posted: 2009-01-10 14:55:45
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Still very happy with my LG Viewty after over a year of ownership. It has its weaknesses, indoor camera shots tend to be weak and the 250 text message number limit can be annoying. But overall its a very good & strongly designed touchscreen phone with good UI and powerful video and camera abilities. Surfing is also great with a 3 inch screen and 3G/HSPA connectivity.

But having an T700 has reminded me of how elegant SE phones are. Those little touches people have been talking about in this thread truly make the UI great. The photoDJ is simple to use but powerful, i often end up retouching my Viewty on my SE phone (thank god for bluetooth which is faster on the T700 Btw). The camera is more responsive in nightshots ,another Viewty weakness, and the photo album handles a large number of images better. Something that always amazes me since the T700 has 1/4th the memory of the LG phone.

The two work together well as a team, am very glad i have both

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Posted: 2009-01-10 16:16:07
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I'd think N82 and C905 are in 2 different catagories, aren't they? The N82 is an "all-rounder" equipped with Symbian while C905 is a feature phone, so to me there is no direct comparison of the two. So IMO one cannot really judge which is better, but only which would suit you more.

For example, for people like me who would like to use my phone for many other purposes as to enter my daily schedule and expenses, to play some of my old GBA games, and the most important of all to be able to get on the internet with a nice browser like Opera Mini, the sure go is for N82.

But for others who want to pursue a more user-friendly UI and a Cybershot camera, C905 would definitely be better.

However, it would of course be best if all the advantages of the two could, if ever possible, be combined into one...

[ This Message was edited by: Ryo81 on 2009-01-10 21:16 ]
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Posted: 2009-01-10 22:15:29
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I have owned SE phones for my main phone for about 4 years now. I have tried every UI out there Nokia S40, S60, Samsung, LG, Apple, Motorola, Blackberry, etc and none can replace the simplicity and powerfulness of SE's UI.
Things I like about the SE UI

1. The recent call list. I don't like how S60 only shows dialed calls when you hit send.
2. Adjusting volume in JAVA games. On SE I just press the Volume up and down keys. S60 doesn't do this.
3. Text messaging is a joy with SE T9, the recent contacts list and the Marking ability.
4. Contacts. I like how when I go to someones name, I can tab left and right to see the number or email I want to call or send a message to. On S60, you just see the name in the main contact list. You have to select the contact to see the numbers/email addys.

I am getting a X1 soon and we will see how that works but I have a feeling I am going to sell it due the speed reports and the WM interface.
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Posted: 2009-01-11 03:02:36
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the viewty has a 300 text message limit.

the viewty has one of the fastest shots of all cameras above 3.2MP - you must have a firmware revision that is slow.
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Posted: 2009-01-11 20:19:19
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The Viewty can save photos in less than 2 seconds on most occasions (at least on 2 of my friends'), but when indoors the photo quality is on par (sometimes worse than) with my C702.
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Posted: 2009-01-11 23:38:44
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Thanks for that feedback Will be posting a review of the T700 soon which will include how it works with my ViewTY. Each has it's strong & weak points which is why I use each phone differently.


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Posted: 2009-01-12 05:54:34
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Awww i guess this is a nice thread to keep that little bit of faith in SE PMPL! Yeah right!
From the very 1st day of owning a S60 i didnt have to touch the manual, i found it a lot better to use, since S60 didnt have giant kiddy icons that made the phone look like a 12yearolds phone. Love the fact that i can move folders around, put folders in folders and just completely customize my menu to what i want straight out the box. To organise my Videos and Pics i simply put the in Albums by MARKING ALL that i want to put. When transfering Music, or Pics, vids etc. . . .i simply click MARK ALL because it DOES EXSIST, and transfer via BT or whatever. When i want to set a Ringtone, i SIMPLY go into the Music Player and find the Artist and Song, click Options and click Set as Ringtone, SIMPLE AS THAT, i dont understand why you had to go through your many songs to do that. Ive found my N81 FAR better to use than my K850.
My N81 offers a large texting field in Opera Mini, allows me to minimize my Web browser to check texts, actualy i can simply minimize almost anything on my S60 unlike on my K850. When im listening to music on my N81 and want to charge it at the same time i dont have to fiddle with a giant connector to the pop-port like on a SE, i simply plug in the charger in its port and the head phones STAY PLUGGED IN to the 3.5mm jack, OH WAIT dont know what that is, so when doing the same on a K850 i have a charger connected to it and ON TOP OF THAT the headphones connector, which looks so stupid and makes the phone a pain to use. About snooze on my N81 its a simple click of the right soft key and voila! I havent found my N81 to lag as much as my K850 or mates C702 especialy when running multiple apps. Ive had Opera8.65, Duke Nukem 3D (yes direct PC port to S60), X-Plore, MXit IM, MSN Messenger plus Music Player running on my N81 and hardly any lag if at all, then again N81 and N82 run to seperate hardware platforms, but try do the same on a SE A200 and the poor thing starts lagging like crazy because it cant handle it.
Anyway each to their own, personaly i prefer S60, its faster, more customizable straight out the box, and more practical on top of that offering smartphone capabilities.
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Posted: 2009-01-12 09:33:42
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Fixed in the T700 & other new phones. Icons are just the right size & if you don't like seeing the icons you cam simply tuck them away in the background.



Check. I can do this too.



This I can't do.




I'm not sure what you mean by large - pic? You can minimize the Web browser in the T70, have the radio playing in the background & check incoming text or anything else you want to do.

The only thing that hogs all the resources is camera mode , but that happens on my ViewTY too.

I have Opera running on my SE phone and it's a beaut. The volume controls on the T70 also control the paging. The display & fonts is so clear even on this 2 inch screen that I can browse the Esato site & reply to posts. In overview mode a square clearly marks which section of the webpage it's centered in & a click brings it up in zoom mode. Even when in GPRS mode, loading of pages is still ok because ontop of the usual Opera optimizations, web page caching has been optimized so moving forward or back a few pages is almost instant.

Its also possible to do all that browsing & downloading resting in bed & operating the phone with one hand without getting cramps in your arm after a time I should mention that Opera's ability to synchronize the speed dial, bookmarks & history is truly great innovation.

Being able to pickup up a browsing session where I last left off whether it's a PC, LG or SE phone I'm currently using is something no other browser can yet do - at least until Mozilla Fennec grows up.



The newer SE phones have an adapter which lets you plug in whichever 3.5mm headphones you want though having one fastport accomodate everything isn't a design I'm fond of.



I don't know how Sony did it, but many times my T70 has a faster response than my ViewTY (which has 4x more memory). These optimizations will work their way into the newer phones - I'm betting the C510 will take advantage of these modifications.



I'm glad you're happy with your N81 - that's the most important thing. Geez, I ended up being an SE defender , I'm supposed to be an LG fan now

ps. I've been reading a lot of negative posts about K850 - is it really that bad? When the K800i came out in my part of the world it was rock solid & a good performer.

[ This Message was edited by: NoroBiik on 2009-01-12 09:51 ]
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Posted: 2009-01-12 10:38:22
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