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LG have posted a record Q4 loss of 690 million dollars.
And its only the past week that SE have beaten them. And anyway, SE's average selling price is way above their competitors. Its because of SE's high end strategy have they declined in this quarter.
In india atleast, the only highend that is selling is the C905. Just bought it a couple of days back. Even the owner of the shop uses one.
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Posted: 2009-01-23 06:15:51
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On 2009-01-23 06:15:51, se_dude wrote:
LG have posted a record Q4 loss of 690 million dollars.
And its only the past week that SE have beaten them. And anyway, SE's average selling price is way above their competitors. Its because of SE's high end strategy have they declined in this quarter.
In india atleast, the only highend that is selling is the C905. Just bought it a couple of days back. Even the owner of the shop uses one.
the Q4 loss of LG electronics has to be put into context - a big chunk came from to subsidiaries involved in LCD displays :
"A bright spot for the company, which also makes household appliances and personal computers, was an 8 percent increase in shipments of mobile phones to 25.7 million, LG said in a release. That pushed its 2008 handset sales to a record 100.7 million, up from 80.5 million in 2007.
Earnings were hurt by 294 billion won of equity-accounted losses from overseas subsidiaries and affiliates, including 214 billion won from flat panel manufacturer LG Display Co., which is 37.9 percent owned by LG."
Mobiles, appliances & PC's had a strong showing - these are probably the only divisions which won't be restructured.
Link here :
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_11530702?nclick_check=1
Details of Nokia's 4th Q 70% profit loss here :
http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/10/19/HNnokiaprofit_1.html
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Posted: 2009-01-23 08:44:27
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This is not true..... Se is 3rd ....
Lg has made some good phones and priced it nicely.. but.. now they are suffering.... its going to be a bad to worse year for motorola and lg....
i bet....
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Posted: 2009-01-23 10:34:00
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On 2009-01-23 10:34:00, pandthu wrote:
This is not true..... Se is 3rd ....
Not according to the estimates.
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Posted: 2009-01-23 10:37:50
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2007 was a massive year for SE handset sales allowing SE to reach 100 million sales for the first time and now, heading into a serious recession on top of a shift in sales away from SE's niche, 2008 sales are 96.6 million - down only 3.5%. In the current market conditions I'd be satisfied with that but looking for SE to do better in 2009.
The signs are good for SE with better featured phones such as
+ AF in the W902; a N95 competitor at last in the C905; Wifi in the mid range -G705, W705/W715; dabling with different platforms - WM, Symbian Foundation and Open Handset Alliance; Clear Audio and Clear bass restoring faith in the
lineup and fewer low end phones to restore the prestige and profitability of the brand.
The trouble is, anyone who's had a iPhone 3G is gonna have trouble going back to a SE phone until SE get a multi-touch screen and some decent downloadable apps. The first can be sorted with some hard work but the second really relies on WM/SF/Android becoming a viable alternative to the rich comsumer experience the iPhone platform enjoys. Let's face it, Apple changed everything and the future is smartphones but not the oddball smartphones of the past. I'm looking forward to the smartphones SE is planning for 2010 release, that's when we should really see some serious upward movement in SE sales.
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Posted: 2009-01-23 11:52:17
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SE was third, according Strategy Analytic . Nokia 38.4, Smasung 17.9 LG 8.7 SE. 82. and Motorola 84, and others plus apple 20.3%
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Posted: 2009-01-23 12:03:39
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For Q4 your figures are correct, but I think 5:th place discussed is on year basis. However, it seems Moto is rolling downhills faster than SE, so the 4:th place on year basis for SE does not seem too far away.
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Posted: 2009-01-23 23:16:09
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On 2009-01-23 12:03:39, SilveR. wrote:
SE was third, according Strategy Analytic . Nokia 38.4, Smasung 17.9 LG 8.7 SE. 82. and Motorola 84, and others plus apple 20.3%
The numbers you have correctly posted do not show them as 'third' ! Is it safe to assume,you are confusing your self ?
(motorola 8.4 and se 8.2)
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Posted: 2009-01-24 04:01:19
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SE should stop labeling low-end products as Cyber-shot and Walkman phones; it's no wonder that SONY refused to let SE use the PSP brand seeing how low-key all those phones are. For me the only phones that are worth their price are those that start with a 7 on their name with the current naming convention and upwards. But the 9's series are too pricey, with the only exception being W902. A very underrated phone.
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Posted: 2009-01-24 05:37:53
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Eldar once wrote in a review,that SE are going on a total restructuring and that prices would cme down from the mid of this year.
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Posted: 2009-01-24 05:44:41
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