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i can't see why apple fanboys get a semi on about the iphone. I really can't.
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Posted: 2009-07-22 12:14:00
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I think that iphone is the best.

This message was posted from a SGH-E250
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Posted: 2009-07-22 12:19:04
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Thank you for your valuable input. We appreciate the effort you have made in comparing these two phones and providing a well-educated and unbiased conclusion.

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Posted: 2009-07-22 12:22:16
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It makes me laugh when people try to attack the iPhone with "specs" - it really ought to be obvious now that in the real world, those specs are only a small part of the story. Ok, the camera on the original iPhone and 3G is pretty poor, and the screen resolution on all of them has been bettered, but the experience of actually using an iPhone hasn't been. And that's not just about the UI itself, as good as that is, it's also about the speed and quality of that "rubbish" hardware - which, with the 3GS, now includes probably the most advanced processor available in any smartphone today.

As for these phones that do "ten times what the iphone does", please do list them, since with the appstore the way it is now I seriously doubt there's anything on earth that the iphone doesn't do already.



IMHO there were only ever very few situations where multitasking was missed on the iPhone, and a good few of them have now been addressed by push notifications. For instance, I can now login to instant messaging with IM+, immediately close down the application and go do something else entirely, and still be logged in to all my IM services for the next 10 minutes (or longer) and have any messages pushed to me in that time.

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Posted: 2009-07-22 13:01:44
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is it true that adobe will not support iphone with the latest flash for mobile?

misunderstanding and arguments is normal...hehe

Ill go for Iphone hehe,,,,,
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Posted: 2009-07-22 13:15:57
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LMAO
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Posted: 2009-07-22 13:18:21
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inversely, Adobe can support iPhone with Flash like Sun can support with Java but problem is inside Apple. Apple don't want to support these technologies in iPhone/iTouch
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Posted: 2009-07-22 13:23:02
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Ok the Satio I can't talk about as I havn't seen one.

But my previous phones, in order have been SE990, N95 and samsung i8510. Each one of them was the flagship phone from the respective company at the time.

The only one that got a reaction from looker-ons was the SE990, the keyboard and stylus combo was quite unusual to see at that time.

THe only one I was ever productive with was the N95. The SE990 was just too slow. The i8510 was too buggy, and 9 months after I bought it, it still didn't have an official firmware update. It really annoyed me so much that I got rid of it early.

When the 3GS iphone was launched, I determined that it solve most of the limitations of the previous iphones and so went for it. I can truely say that I have found this phone to be so much more productive than anything else I've every had. I actually want excuses to use this phone.

Some of the highlights for me are.

1) The user interface. Its just dead easy and completely intuitative. The phone doesn't come with a manual, which I thought was odd at the time, but I see why now...you don't need one. It is not a geek phone. I'm as good a geek as the next guy, but 99% of people will get 99% of the functionality out of this phone.

2) Getting online. The N95 and i8510 constantly asked "do you want to connect to", or "select which profile" every time you wanted to access some online content. I assume this is an S60 thing. With the iphone, if you are at a previously known wifi spot it uses it totally transparently. If not it'll ask you. If you aren't in a wifi area, it just uses the 3G or 2G transparently.

3) Picking up email. Its two clicks..and with "going online" a transparent thing, its just so easy. If the email is in html format, then its all there, embedded on the screen, and you can zoom in on fine details and small print using multi-touch.

4)Web browser. Undoubtedly the best thing about the browser is the selective zooming and panning via multi-touch. Makes a small screen quite usable.

5) Apps. I'm amazed how easy apple has made actually installing the apps. Once you've found what you want on the app store, two clicks and thats it, an icon immediately appears on the iphone with a tiny progress bar imposed on it. When its downloaded the progress bar goes away, no separately defined "downloading" and "installing" phases (who actually wants to know that). Oh and whilst its doing that you can go on with whatever else you want to do, and when its done its there.

6)Camera. Much has been said about this. The 3GS answers some of the limitations. Ok the 3MP cam isn't great, I miss my 8M i8510 for the piccys. But selecting the focus point by pressing on the screen is so simple, switching between camera and video is literally an onscreen "switch" (again totally intuitative). I find the camera "acceptable" for casual pics. Taking pictures is not a be all and end all for me. Front camera....hmmm who actually uses a front camera ( although someone on here told me its useful for deaf people signing or lip reading)....but really are video calls essential for you. Basically its the elmination of a piece of kit that most don't use. Whereas.....

7) The compass I find fantastic. Was in a foreign city just yesterday, had the map open showing my hotel. Knew the bus stop was quite close to the hotel. Hit the compass and immediately knew which way to walk.


I've never owned an apple piece of kit previously, I would not call myself a "fan". I've been into computers at a time when windows were made of glass and nothing to do with PCs. I just find this phone so easy to use and so productive, and I think many "casual" non-tech people will find it a similar experience. I find myself recommending this phone to people, I never would recommend a phone previously as you really need to be into technology to use the prevously phones I had, to their full potential.
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Posted: 2009-07-22 14:11:18
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@Rider
what seems to be the issue why iphone doesn't want to be supported with those kind of technology?
sorry for the stupid question hehe,

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Posted: 2009-07-22 21:37:33
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brys182
Apple just don't want to allow other 3rd party software solutions to run on iPhone - it's top of the ice mountain. Java and Flash can be used to run applications/games which don't have to be downloaded from AppStore and Apple can't accept lack of control over software content and distribution channel. second thing is that Apple knows iPhone SDK is the best thing (native) for applications/games developers, hard to disagree of course but... try iPhone programming on Windows PC and try it for Java and Flash development obviously Apple don't want to support "no-need-to-use-iMac-and-Mac OS X-for-development" solutions

however sooner or later you will find Flash (full or Lite) in iPhone. I'm not sure about Java but it's sad that Apple don't want to see potential of iPhone with Java

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Posted: 2009-07-23 09:33:25
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