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AbuBasim Posts: > 500


On 2010-07-23 06:11:53, max_wedge wrote:
But on the whole, provided the developer can sign their apps, "jailbreaking" is not needed on s60 to do things such as wifi tethering or installing apps where the hell I like.

And on S60 we didn't have to make up new terms for things that have been around for a long time. I used JoikuSpot on my E90 back in the days. And this is just an app you install. No need for jailbreaking/rooting.

With the iPhone I use today, I have to jailbreak to be able to install the same functionality (MyWi). Whis is why I will leave iPhone and not switch to iPhone 4. (My phone is unlocked so I can use Bluetooth tethering but this is slower than WiFi.)

The iPhone was originally not intended to run apps. Jobs wanted it only to run web apps. When everyone started screaming about this he introduced the app store and the iPhone SDK but just to spite people he made all apps run in a chroot jail. Now data sharing between apps is not possible since each has it's own protected directory structure making it very difficult to add basic functionality missing in the phone. One example: I have DocsToGo installed for viewing and editing MS Office documents. I can't beam these documents to another phone since DocsToGo itself would require support for Bluetooth. You can't install another app specially written for Bluetooth beaming that could access the files stored by DocsToGo.
[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2010-07-23 09:10 ]

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Posted: 2010-07-23 10:02:48
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500

Thank goodness theres nothing like that on Android, some apps recommend other apps e.g Dolphin Browser recommends the Bookmarks To SD app,you click yes and it opens the Market and takes you straight to that app, some apps will mention that they will use a certain app thats already installed etc...
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Posted: 2010-07-23 10:30:10
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

It's true there is a lot less restriction on Android compared to iphone. And yes Froya is a vast improvement.

While Android is currently more restricted than winmo, after the release of WP7 the tables will be turned with Android probably being the leading "open" mobile OS. WP7 looks to suck bigtime which is a major disappointment from Microsoft.

@abubasim, your docstogo example is exactly why I don't like iPhone. I mean why can't all apps share the same storage? How antiquated is that? And why no bluetooth transfer? Or wifi tethering?


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Posted: 2010-07-26 04:11:05
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tranced Posts: > 500

@max_wedge: it's Froyo
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Posted: 2010-07-26 04:23:02
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

better than what I first thought it was: frodo
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Posted: 2010-07-26 06:55:52
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500

Lol, many make that Frodo mistake. Just remember this way, all Android versions are named after deserts. You get 1.5 Cupcake, 1.6 Donut, 2.1 Eclaire and 2.2 Froyo (Frozen Yoghurt).
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Posted: 2010-07-26 10:13:48
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

lol, when they get to cheesecake I'm there...
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Posted: 2010-07-27 04:52:34
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Brightspark Posts: 326


On 2010-07-26 04:11:05, max_wedge wrote:
It's true there is a lot less restriction on Android compared to iphone. And yes Froya is a vast improvement.

While Android is currently more restricted than winmo, after the release of WP7 the tables will be turned with Android probably being the leading "open" mobile OS. WP7 looks to suck bigtime which is a major disappointment from Microsoft.

@abubasim, your docstogo example is exactly why I don't like iPhone. I mean why can't all apps share the same storage? How antiquated is that? And why no bluetooth transfer? Or wifi tethering?



android is not more restricted than winmo. i think you chose the wrong word to use. android is still young, so whilst there may be the ocassional facility that isn't implemented yet, that doesn't make it more restricted. restricted means that the potential to do something is there but it's being deliberately held back by the manufacturer(google), and that isn't the case.


as for the decision between an android device and an iphone, that's a no brainer. the only 'reason' to go with the iphone is if you're an apple zombie who's had his/her brains sucked out and replaced by a fruit.
[ This Message was edited by: Brightspark on 2010-07-28 02:18 ]

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Posted: 2010-07-28 03:12:02
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masseur Posts: > 500

I get where you're coming from Brightspark, but winmo has always had the ability to change behaviour via registry edits or 3rd party software and android is definitely still in its infancy in this area... and most people judge a device by what it can do NOW, not by what it may be able to do in the future. Having said that and having had the Desire, I'll probably never go back to a winmo device despite 7 years+ of use.

as for your comment between android and iphone, sadly as a user of both and certainly (I hope) not yet a zombie I still stick with the iphone though I have already admitted from Desire use that next year that opinion may well change, or at least be a much harder decision
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Posted: 2010-07-28 03:23:53
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Brightspark Posts: 326

yes, winmo pre 7 (RIP) had great ability to customise in many areas, but i'm not aware of it having the scope and modularity to be able to literally change everything that android can. you can change the functionality of everything on android. whether there's an an app to do it is another matter, but the potential to do so is there (eg you can even change the cam interface and replace any native app to make the new one behave as if it's native).

don't leave it too long.
[ This Message was edited by: Brightspark on 2010-07-28 02:45 ]

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Posted: 2010-07-28 03:44:37
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