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Id rather deal with SE's glacial pace and have a stable phone with plenty great quality apps, games and modds, than deal with half baked symbians and Nokia's bloatware and mostly poor quality software, Ovi Maps, Gravity and SPB Mobile Shell being the exceptions.
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Posted: 2010-09-25 01:04:22
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Mine lasted longer than that, but you're right - the drain from constant use of the 262K colour screen was too much for the battery back then. A firmware update improved the battery life though.
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Posted: 2010-09-26 03:11:36
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Symbian is something that evolves. if SE, motorola and nokia would've pushed hard, it would've been symbian^5 by now. things evolve, and so does source code, so the developers might've pushed the symbian foundation to make a next symbian platform totally diffirent, but keeping the good things about the previous versions.

the guy who developed the K700 was plain stupid, if the T610/630 had a battery of xxx mAh then why would you put a battery with less mAh in a new phone that uses even more power?
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Posted: 2010-09-26 14:02:25
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The second time SE is dropping Symbian. First out was their own UIQ which was also based on the Symbian OS.
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Posted: 2010-09-26 15:07:27
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I must say though seeing Symbian 3 from the N8 videos on You Tube it looks a whole lot more fluid
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Posted: 2010-09-26 15:15:22
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@ carkitter - i agree with you slightly, if it wasnt for Apple or Android coming along smartphones probably would be more boring now and app creation wouldnt have taken off like it has..

BUT - bart is right. You buy an Android or iPhone, or even a Samsung Wave running Bada and the things you grow accustomed to with a mature OS simply arent there. The menus and way in which Android and Apple approach multitasking are missing important aspects. Such things i take for granted with Symbian are not always possible with an Android or Apple handset.

Its sad but possibly true that smartphones arent so smart as they used to be and that instead of the once powerful technology behind them making them shine, its how many apps each platform has. For me thats not how i class a better smartphone. Apple have proven an app can be made for almost anything, in doing so thousands of idiots have created useless pieces of software of little purpose or value to the platform. So does that make Apple (and Android) better phones overall ? we all like choice, but no i dont think it does at all.

I check out all phones on the market when im about to buy, yet still not a single Android phone or the iPhone 4 can win my custom when i see phones like the Nokia N8. Its just the best all round package.
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Posted: 2010-09-26 17:07:34
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My first encounter with Symbian was with the P900. Really hated it. Partly due to the fact that out of the 18 months i owned it. The phone spent 12 months back with SE and was still returned with the same problems. By this time I'd bought an S700 (1 month before general sale. First Esato member to own one) so it hardly saw any use and eventually sold it. After this i was tempted by the P990 but bought a W850 after reading of it many problems. By this time i was permanently put off symbian and uiq. I eventuall decided to take another look when i saw the p1 and took to uiq straight away and wouldn't have anything else. After the p1 i bought a w960 which i also liked (and still miss) and a g900. Wasnt happy about uiq ending as i didnt like nokia symbian. Wasnt as easy to use as uiq. Took a chance with the satio but as much as i tried i couldn't bring myself to like it. Even bought another p1 at one point.
I think if SE had supported uiq more I'd have stuck with it but have since moved to Android with the x10, mini and mini pro. Not for the apps although i have downloaded a small number. Mainly for some features that i used in uiq that the x10 has and also ease of use.
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Posted: 2010-09-26 17:45:00
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sounds so deja vue.
i had every P phone (appart from the P900) and almost every other phone SE launched, but after the P1i i was kind of waiting on something new, K800 was a decent phone, G900 looked boring, tryed some other brands, LG and nokia series 60.
i hoped the series60 would've improved over the years, but it was still abit boring and not as userfriendly.
the SE A200 platform is about the same for me as a series60 phone..
so after a long think, and several other phones, i went back to the P1i.
i'm hoping for nokia to launch a device with symbian^3 which would follow up the E72 but with touchscreen and a good camera. and a decent price tag

i hope nokia's new man doesn't love his old company. i want nokia to push symbian forworth, not meego and W7

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Posted: 2010-09-26 18:44:45
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Ive only had Nokia S60 Symbians. Started with a N80, then to a N81, then a 5800, i realy liked them, enjoyed hacking, tweaking and just fooling around in the filesystem, had the 5800 for 5-6months and the touch experience at 1st seemed fine but after having played with a 3GS extensively, i started getting frustrated with s60v5, luckily i had an upgrade in late July and simply couldnt wait to jump on the Android bandwagon with the X10 as my final choice, made the move and glad i did, i was originaly going to wait for the N8, but after watching many preview/review vids and looking at its specs and what i wanted i realised i was wasting my time, S^3 seems to look and work a lot like S60v5, and the lack of interest in Symbian by app and game devs. was just the final straw, one of the main reasons i jumped from my W900 to the N80 instead of W880 was due to the quality of apps, games and great modds in S60, and now that its all gone or lost its "mojo" to Android there was simply no other reason to stick around.
I dont feel like i lost anything at all, if anything i gained a lot:
-fantastic UI that is just so flexible and moddable
-Excellent support in terms of apps, games, and the XDA Modders
-The apps are of great quality and are so well supported, e.g Rockplayer must have recieved like 3updates just this past week, Gmaps is always getting new updates, i think its updated monthly etc...the support is just incredible, even on the gaming side, with Gameloft giving us their best iPhone "HD games", and EA now announcing they will be joining the Android ship.
-Multitasking, WOW, what a pleasure to do on Android, the system handles apps very well, far better than Symbian. Apps are cached if it runs out of RAM, so you can still open them and find them the way they were, none of that "Out of memory,close some apps" crap.
-The notification system is rivald by none, who ever at Google thought of this is a genius, Social networking apps, email apps, messaging apps, any app that performs a download etc...all take advantage of that notification bar, this means apps dont disturb each other, you get a notification at the top that shows a preview of the message/download being finished etc...
-Homescreen/widgets, tons of them, you even have great UI shells like ADW Launcher, Helix, Live etc...all make SPB Shell look like a piece of software thats still in Beta testing. Widgets,some allow adjusting the size and they can be removed on the fly, just tap and hold and drag it down to the bin, easy.
-Modds, from CPU overclocking,to installing 3rd party ROMs etc...its all there.
I just cant move back to symbian after gaining all that in Android, my 5800 is just for music and back-up now but even just dealing with Symbian for a few mins is just frustrating, just feels like a dumbphone, that Symbian web browser is pure crap, you wonder what people are talking about when they call symbian mature as it feels like its the one that needs to mature.
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Posted: 2010-09-26 21:07:08
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Jesus,I was knackered after reading that Long post like reading a book on the history of smart phones all in one post
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Posted: 2010-09-26 21:13:24
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