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carkitter Posts: > 500


On 2010-11-16 09:40:03, jojosiscar wrote:
A bit biased but a good read nonetheless on SE's strategy.

Sony Ericsson in 2011, or Strategy Failure?! (by Eldar)

It also tlaks on Nokia's drastic decline in it's Market share.

I don't often agree with Eldar, but I do agree with his comments on in that post.
Symbian phones are not making headway against iOS and Android competitors.
are behind on WP7 and it's WM phones are dead in the water.
has ruined it's Android reputation by being too slow with OS updates.
Feature phones are a shrinking market.

I cannot see making headway from here. All manufacturers bar Apple are under pressure because of the pace of change in the smartphone market. Worse, all manufacturers are now making basically the same 4" tablet phone with 1GHz processor and 5-8 Mp camera so market differentiation for Android and WP7 models is becoming confused. The only winners in these categories are HTC and Samsung who have the flexibility to bang out new models at the speed of light, something a glacial will never be able to compete with. Sony Ericsson's traditional strengths - styling and UI - have been taken out of play as the minimalist tablet form factor with a shared OS takes over.

I read comments attributed to the CEO of SE France saying that won't be entering the tablet market. That's madness. I think that is the only market it could really compete well in. The tablet market does not move as fast as the smartphone market and has only 1 sucessful player and a whole lot of wannabee's whose products are a mishmash of copied ideas done badly. There definately is room for another well thought-out tablet.
[ This Message was edited by: carkitter on 2010-11-24 05:50 ]

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Posted: 2010-11-21 11:32:10
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Hobbs Posts: > 500

SE must stay out of the tablet business and just focus all their attention on their phones.Only once they have establish themselves back in the phone arena then concentrate elsewhere.
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Posted: 2010-11-21 11:53:31
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NoroBiik Posts: 277


On 2010-11-21 11:53:31, Hobbs wrote:
SE must stay out of the tablet business and just focus all their attention on their phones.Only once they have establish themselves back in the phone arena then concentrate elsewhere.



This is how it works for Apple. People get the iPod Touch, get drawn in then get the iPhone or iPad. Or - they get the iPad first , like the user experience then get the iPhone or a Mac. There is one appstore for all of Apple's mobile devices and when Leopard comes (the newest Mac OSX) the Macs will have an appstore too.

It's not about just phones anymore.

(jojosiscar - thanks for the link to Eldar's article. great read)
[ This Message was edited by: NoroBiik on 2010-11-23 02:38 ]

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Posted: 2010-11-22 09:37:28
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fairen Posts: 164

I would say.. A while

SE has made quite a number of phones which really made it to the top, good music phones and good camera phones and that's mostly what matters to a lot of people.
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Posted: 2010-11-23 01:55:31
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strauts Posts: 180

jap, i think SE should make al phones with autofocus on cameras, and a flash light,
they are maded many phones with af and fl, good screen, and then suddenly a lot of weak phones with out any extra!?! So there are no chose, moust of people will take a nokia, cause the screen a little bit biger, camera little bit better!
But not me, i'll always take SE, no matters what!
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Posted: 2010-11-24 17:36:00
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mrjulius Posts: > 500

SE, first got my attetion is K750i and still they got my attention greatphones, slowupdates.
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Posted: 2010-11-24 22:14:35
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Bonovox Posts: > 500

Slow updates is an understatement
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Posted: 2010-11-25 01:04:28
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jplacson Posts: > 500

Poor software has always...ALWAYS been an issue... it carried over with ...

Hardware was never a problem. Sony actually made things worse with their Memorystick Duo earlier on.

needs to understand the importance of software.

Apple gets it... Apple has so-so hardware... covered in a really cute shell. And efficient software.
has great hardware... in a great shell... bogged down by horrible software support.

The X10 Mini UI is a great concept. But it's way to slow and inefficient. Timescape could be one of the greatest Android apps... bogged down by inefficiency.

The X10 Mini/MP could greatly benefit from the speed increase of Froyo... I switched from ADW to LauncherPro and the increase in response time is incredible. Froyo could really help the tiny 600Mhz CPU on the Mini/MP and make it FEEL like it's bigger brother.

I'd take a vanilla Froyo w/ LauncherPro over the Homescreen UI of the X10 Mini if it meant a 400% speed increase!!!

Google did 90% of the work for already... FOR FREE. I do like the auto config. HTC doesn't have that. But honestly ... MOVE YOUR A$$!!!!

BTW... I still want Sony Nightshot on my camera!
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Posted: 2010-11-25 04:50:54
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se80 Posts: 191

They won't be around much longer if they keep releasing poor phones. Taking out Apple..Samsung have the best range plus there's HTC and Blackberry gone mainstream.

SE is going the way of Motorola and Nokia of recent times..however Nokias 2010 range is very good.
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Posted: 2010-11-25 14:09:30
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Enci1983 Posts: 68

Just the facts. Samsung is not big for its innovation, they make phones like crazy. I meen over the years they far away from the other manufacturers by over 600 phones. By last year when samsung had 483 phones in january 2009, I guess someday people recognize that samsung is making a tamagochi look-a-like dozen phones since the past 2 years. Hand in hand with Lg. Sorry but thats the truth. Ooh and apple 4 phones and they are in the top 5 vendors. How come? Coz they know what, how and when. That is the solution. And Nokia, omg they are dissapointing, they're like totally wicked. E7 will cost 700 euro? I had enough of them.

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Posted: 2010-11-26 01:40:00
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