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I'vew been censored countless times for posting "pm me for info on mophun 4 free" or "recommending m9 or m y t610." Personally, I think it's crap, but as it's laffens site i guess there's nothing i can do about it
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Posted: 2004-03-19 17:12:39
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It IS crap. You aren't doing anything wrong... You are advertising information that other members might be interested in. I would and could confidently argue that this site is based on that very concept.

I might be making a bigger deal out of this than I should, but I have a very problem with being told I cannot do something, whether this is laffen's site or not. m9 directly relates to the topics of this forum, and if we are not allowed to discuss, completely, the topics of this forum then why visit this forum in the first place?

That is my entire argument. I'll probably be banned for this, but hey, there's always m9!
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Posted: 2004-03-19 18:21:47
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On 2004-03-19 17:12:39, KiMcHeEbOi wrote:
I'vew been censored countless times for posting "pm me for info on mophun 4 free" or "recommending m9 or m y t610." Personally, I think it's crap, but as it's laffens site i guess there's nothing i can do about it



I cannot stipulate enough that M9 has NO ILLEGAL content..

'mophun for free' has a higher risk of being illegal and that is AGAINST the esato rules.

It is NOT the same thing in my opinion as linking to a site that has for whatever reason attracted too much attention on this forum.
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Posted: 2004-03-19 19:24:50
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Quote: M9 has NO ILLEGAL content

Vlamm is 100% right there, they even took down their wav files. The mods do a great job there and there is no illeal content what so ever.
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Posted: 2004-03-19 19:28:53
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laffen just doesn't like the competition. That is my guess.
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Posted: 2004-03-19 23:48:18
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but why is it competition anyway?
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Posted: 2004-03-20 00:34:54
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Vlam - have I told you lately how beautiful you look when your angry?

Nice thread - Allways fun and interesting with a litle heated discussion - as long as noone insults anyone personally

I would have to agree on many of the statements made here.
Naturally this is ultimately Laffens site/forum - and he can do with it whatever he choose to. I definately also do not want to "attack" any moderators as they are only moderating - meaning only doing what they are sopposed to do - namely maintaining forum according to specified instructions/rules from siteowner.

But I would like to say to Laffen - that Esato is a good forum, visited by many, with many good debates. A forum I like to visit amongst many forums I visit. But one of the things that make a good forum is freedom of speech - and starting to censorship that speech for reasons not based on restrictions by law or human conduct allways degrade the quality of such forums. m9 does absolutely nothing that could conflict with either laws or human conducts. Quite the contrary. Therefore I see no reason why it should be subject for such censorship. Sure it can be seen as a "competitor" - but that should not be seen as a bad thing - competition is allways good - it generelly ups quality all around - and Im absolutely positive that Esato forum would not suffer visitors just because of other forums existence or the mentioning of other forums on Esato. Adding censorship like this however could have that exact effect or it could generate Esato forums a bad rep for being a place where speech is not free - and that would really be a shame.

PS: about competition - I guess Esato Forums main income to cover for expenses to run the site - comes from adverts based on numbers of visitors traffic. One could state that a "competitive" site could generate visitor traffic away from Esato thus lowering possible income. I beleive however that only lowering quality can do that - and there are plenty of "room" for several sites/forums for users to visit.

[ This Message was edited by: TheRealSpawn on 2004-03-20 00:09 ]
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Posted: 2004-03-20 00:56:37
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I know free mophun posts could be a legal problem for esato, and i don't care that they are removed. However, might not a more friendly relationship between these major sites be better for all of us, esato included? This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2004-03-20 02:27:35
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Armed with my flak jacket

What was the reason for starting this forum?

I have been comming here under various usernames for a long time now and it was home to most (Asterisk it out myself) *******.com members but the pettiness has become more important that the reason behind it. For instance, there will always be more people that want themes than those who actually make them. Some charge, we dont, some rip, we dont and when alerted to uploads of any theme thats not created by the uploader, the theme is then removed. Why do some of us link to there? Because maybe the theme has been requested by an Esato member or to point people to a free helpful site. Laffen wants to go through posts deleting or editing them, then I suggest he spends a couple of hours with us to get to the bottom of it
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Posted: 2004-04-09 16:15:50
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@Bitch_uk
I don't understand what you are trying to say...
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Posted: 2004-04-10 00:58:00
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