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If I had a Pig Ugly wife like some of these Suicide bombers I would want to strap a huge amount of explosive round my body and set it off.
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Posted: 2004-04-14 12:37:56
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erm....
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Posted: 2004-04-14 12:44:54
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On 2004-04-14 09:05:14, Vlammetje wrote:
How many of those men with guns really know how to create a safe environment? How many of them know how to buikld and explouit an oi well? How many of them know how to sell an item?
They have not done anything remotely like that for 30 years! How will they fare if left alone? Be honest. And do remember most ppl that did have the knowledge needed either left long ago or were killed.
I tottaly agree with Vlammetje here, if the coalation forces leave Iraq now the nation will just fall apart. I am sure Axxxr you will agree that even the muslims don't like each other, do you think the Sunnis and the Shias will live in harmony ever after? What will happen to the kurds? What about Ahemedia group? And its not news that muslims are the most illiterate and uneducated people in the world (Please don't come up with one or two names of famous muslims, instead look at the literacy rate of the muslim countries) and hence who will make the machinery to dig oil wells, ofcourse you have to depend on the rest of the world. And what is there in this middle east apart from oil which the Brits discovered for you, I really wonder what will happen to the muslim world if the oil dries up one day. Pakistan is the only muslim country which produce some rice, wheat and other stuff.
Now Axxxr you mentioned about 'Double Standards' above, do you know that non muslims can't even enter the city of Mecca or Madina, that's two big cities I am not mentioning about a particular mosque, how tolerating is that? I have friends who had to 'smuggle' Bible in to saudi arabia after removing the face cover so that they can read it at their home how tolerating is that? and then when people like you come to other countries you want all the rights in the world (I assume you are in london ) and you don't see that as double standards. You are allowed to build mosques and distribute qurans free and preach about your religion in all the democracies in the world (western or eastern) but you don't allow others to do the same in your countries.
You complained about the treatment of prisoners in guantanamo bay and asked for fair trial where they were reading qurans and were having three meals a day and were provided a muslim american preist while in saudi arabia you will be beheaded without any trial for blasphemy and that blasphemy is if a person folows his religion, not saying something against islam, don't you think that is not double standards?
Now again if you look around the world where ever there is trouble and war one side is always muslims, be it Iraq, Palestine, Kashmir, Afganistan, Chechnya, Yogoslavia .... the list goes on an on. If I am arrested for fighting against 10 different people and 10 different places I think its only fair and logical to assume that I am the trouble maker and not the other 10 people. I think this fighting around the world happens because the muslims are not at all tolerable to other religions and the people don't want to integrate with the society they are living in. Having said about integration in Saudi Arabia you want even women visitors to use a black veil to cover their head and at the same time you refuse to learn English while you are in UK.
You seems to be an educated person based in london try to influence the ignorant religious leaders to be more open and tolerable to other religions and cultures then people will respect muslim ideologies
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Posted: 2004-04-14 13:52:53
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On 2004-04-14 13:52:53, anish wrote:
And its not news that muslims are the most illiterate and uneducated people in the world (Please don't come up with one or two names of famous muslims, instead look at the literacy rate of the muslim countries)
i did not say THAT and that is most certainly not true. What i said is the ppl who have the knowledge required to build Iraq are not currently IN Iraq nor have they been there anytime during the past 10 years. They fled. they are still (most likely) muslims though, albeit in exile and most certainly not illiterate.
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And what is there in this middle east apart from oil which the Brits discovered for you, I really wonder what will happen to the muslim world if the oil dries up one day. Pakistan is the only muslim country which produce some rice, wheat and other stuff.
Indonesia? large tourism industry (well at leats prior to the bombings?)
Egypt? Also tourism?
Agricultural? Spices? Just to name a few
Quote:Now again if you look around the world where ever there is trouble and war one side is always muslims, be it Iraq, Palestine, Kashmir, Afganistan, Chechnya, Yogoslavia .... the list goes on an on. If I am arrested for fighting against 10 different people and 10 different places I think its only fair and logical to assume that I am the trouble maker and not the other 10 people.
I give you northern Ireland. A fine example of mutual Christian AND UK based intolerance.
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Posted: 2004-04-14 14:03:02
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On 2004-04-14 01:27:19, axxxr wrote:
Listen gelfen mate!..The f**king americans should'n be in Iraq in the first place..There are illegely occupying Iraq You think iraqis are so dumb that they belive the yanks came to liberate them!,,yanks dont give a flying monkeys about iraqis or liberating them..they just want to get iraq into control so they can suck the oil dry from it!..As far as these murdering thugs are concerned..They are fighting occupation here!..its there land mate..they make the rules not the americans!.They have to have to defend themselves against heavy american weapons..taking hostages is the only way they see things..And mate i wasnt refering to iraqi's sucide bombers but Palestinians.And your forgetting over 400 iraqis have died in the last 2 weeks fighting in the town of faluja..So what do u want them to do send George Bush Flowers.
And keep Israel safe from harm. I think this was the primary reason for the invasio...... sorry 'Liberation of Iraq'
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Posted: 2004-04-14 14:34:24
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Hey westerners, Russians were released,how is it possible? Iraqis are making a difference between christians. That's not so good news.
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Posted: 2004-04-14 14:36:54
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On 2004-04-14 01:55:10, boto43 wrote:
Hey guys,as I can see this debate I would say 3. WW is coming. The war between muslim world and westeners.Who can save the world? Perhaps, Chinesse communists. Really, who was thinking about a fact, usa didn't ,make' wars with the muslims during the era of the Soviet union.
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Err? Wake up and smell the coffee people! Why does everyone seem to be so surprised? This 'War' on Islam has been going on ever since Islam first started. It's just another crusade, led by the Zionist's and Extreme Christian right, who basicly control the USA, who control the world. There's not much anyone can do about it unfortunatly, as long as the west sees Islam as a threat to it's NWO, then we're not gonna see a resolve anytime soon.
The American Dream or world peace, you choose.
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Posted: 2004-04-14 14:41:27
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care to be a bit more precise? Coz 'making a difference between christians' is the kind of statement that really MEANS nothing but has the potential to create a row.
Considered the possibility they were:
a) freed
b) paid for?
You think anybody cares whether they're christain or not? Does that make them special in any way?
Is every westerner christian?
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Posted: 2004-04-14 14:42:14
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You don't have all infos. Otherwise you wouldn't ask these questions.
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Posted: 2004-04-14 14:50:00
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which is obviously why i ask you to EXPLAIN A BIT FURTHER
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Posted: 2004-04-14 14:51:36
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