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Sammy_boy Posts: > 500

Are you sure that's not one of the UK's scaled down new aircraft carriers?

I'm hoping to see Farenhight 9/11, don't think it's out yet over here!
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Posted: 2004-06-29 09:19:10
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axxxr Posts: > 500

The United States invaded a distant country to share the blessings of democracy. But after being welcomed as liberators, U.S. troops encountered a bloody insurrection. Sound familiar? Don’t think Iraq—think the Philippines and Mexico decades ago. U.S. President George W. Bush and his advisors have embarked on a historic mission to change the world. Too bad they ignored the lessons of history.





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Posted: 2004-06-30 10:17:23
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batesie Posts: > 500

Quote @axxxr, Too bad they ignored the lessons of history. YEP! MAN YOURE RIGHT. This message was posted from a P900
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Posted: 2004-06-30 10:23:16
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@axxxr

Which lesson, exactly, have they ignored? Perhaps it's that lesson that not opposing a tyrannical dictator resulted in a massive global war in which tens of millions of people were killed?
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Posted: 2004-06-30 13:04:23
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axxxr Posts: > 500

The war your refering to was a lot different..Those were real threats with armies who could fight and had the weapons and firepower to do so.Today what the americans are they doing is lieing cheating and dicieving the world in order to invade a country who poses no threat,and cant even protect themselves let alone attack another country.So basically there is no comparison.
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Posted: 2004-06-30 15:32:58
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axxxr Posts: > 500








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Posted: 2004-07-01 06:25:26
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baff Posts: 16

Sammy boy, you clueless twonk! the photos of uk troops brutalising iraqi prisoners were proven to be fakes, so that is not up for debate. YOU CLUELESS TIT!! This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2004-07-01 10:19:04
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@axxxr

The Iraq situation was very similar to the situation in the 1930's, and I shall explain why.

Two power mad dictators were intent upon increasing their own power and expanding their territorg at the expense of surrounding nations.

Both Germang and Iraq were assumed to have weapons capable of inflicting massive damage e.g. an airforce capable of destroying Britain and WMDs. Both assumptions were only partly true.

Both Iraq and Germang received support and acknowledgement from the nations who would later oppose them.

In the run up to both wars there were huge swathes of the populations of the Western powers who regarded any form of military action as unacceptable. Politicians who proposed using force were labelled 'warmongers' and 'liers' for 'deceiving' the public.

Both Iraq and Germany would have liked to have had nuclear weapons, thankfully niether was given the chance to develop such weapons because of offensive action against them.

There are many other similarities, which I shall not mention to keep this post from becoming too long.
I'm not quite sure what it is you think the U.S. is lying about with regards to Iraq, not that l'm saying they are completely honest, but apart from oil and friendly regime in the region I don't see what they have to gain. If one looks at the disadvantages then one would really wonder why Bush would have ever even thought of invading Iraq, regardless, a tyrant is now gone.


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Posted: 2004-07-01 13:33:00
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@axxxr

The Iraq situation was very similar to the situation in the 1930's, and I shall explain why.

Two power mad dictators were intent upon increasing their own power and expanding their territorg at the expense of surrounding nations.

Both Germang and Iraq were assumed to have weapons capable of inflicting massive damage e.g. an airforce capable of destroying Britain and WMDs. Both assumptions were only partly true.

Both Iraq and Germang received support and acknowledgement from the nations who would later oppose them.

In the run up to both wars there were huge swathes of the populations of the Western powers who regarded any form of military action as unacceptable. Politicians who proposed using force were labelled 'warmongers' and 'liers' for 'deceiving' the public.

Both Iraq and Germany would have liked to have had nuclear weapons, thankfully niether was given the chance to develop such weapons because of offensive action against them.

There are many other similarities, which I shall not mention to keep this post from becoming too long.
I'm not quite sure what it is you think the U.S. is lying about with regards to Iraq, not that l'm saying they are completely honest, but apart from oil and friendly regime in the region I don't see what they have to gain. If one looks at the disadvantages then one would really wonder why Bush would have ever even thought of invading Iraq, regardless, a tyrant is now gone.


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Posted: 2004-07-01 13:33:00
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axxxr Posts: > 500

eh....whats up with baff?
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Posted: 2004-07-01 18:31:34
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