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Ahhhh, this takes me back! I remember all the debates me, axxxr and others had on subjects like this a few months ago!
I generally laugh at conspiracy theories like these, but would eat humble pie if any of them were proved true with no shadow of a doubt, or at least as far as you can prove (or disprove) something.
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Posted: 2005-01-21 14:34:15
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@axxxr has rightly moved the conversation over from conspiricy theories to real political agenda's.
If people cant see the real reason behind america invading iraq (which happens to have the largest untouched oil fields in the world) then theres the reason bush is back in power @axxxr
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[ This Message was edited by: batesie on 2005-01-21 13:42 ]
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Posted: 2005-01-21 14:42:26
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I guess you guys must be wiser than the majority of the 300-million odd Americans!
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Posted: 2005-01-21 16:39:04
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On a recent poll regarding the war on Iraq the 65% of americans think the war on iraq was a bad idea.and as time goes by that figure is increasing,...300,million americans you say dave_uk...Correct me if im wrong but I do believe that half of america did vote against bush and the war!...
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Posted: 2005-01-21 16:54:44
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I don't doubt your stats - you are the resident Google expert after all -but what I meant, more broadly, was that had half the Americans voted against Bush, as you say, he would not have been inaugurated yesterday.
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Posted: 2005-01-21 17:23:33
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Well he did win by a majority vote....But it was hardly a landslide victory...In fact it was a very slim majority as you would proberbly know..When i said half of americans i did'nt mean exactly mean 50/50 if you catch my drift!
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Posted: 2005-01-21 17:40:43
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DEFINATLEY Not landslide....
BUSH
60,608,582 VOTES
Kerry
57,288,974 VOTES
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Posted: 2005-01-21 18:00:55
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on the cameras would you actually believe any of the footage if you saw it now? i would guess you believe it to be doctored the amount of time that has passed even i would be concerned if any footage was brought out now.
though i aint sure how much the camera s would show you as i would guess most of the cameras would be a ground level not in the air as i would have though radar would be used to track incoming form the air.
the way i see it is the consipresy thoerys over 9/11 are more that people dislike bush. as i ve always thought bush did nt need to kill 6000 people to wage a war on terror (if thats even the correct term)
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Posted: 2005-01-21 18:56:59
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If all the footage was released now in its entirety with the condition that it was analysed by independent investigators and proved to be genuine yes i would accept that...No reason why i should'nt..
Camera's were positioned at ground level of course but the plane also hit at ground level....All us "conspiracy theorists" ask is that we need to see the plane strike the pentagon wall....with camera's dotted around every conceivable angle on that site around the pentagon...Im sure at least one of those camera's must have caught it....According to the CIA..I quote: "Surveilance footage cannot be realeased as its a matter of national security"..In that case why did'nt they confiscate the footage from the trade centre attacks aswell....And the other thing is i'm glad you brought this up...
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On 2005-01-21 18:56:59, slattery69 wrote:i would have though radar would be used to track incoming form the air.
Did you also know that there is a no fly zone around the pentagon area which has been in force ever since the pentagon was built..so a Unidentifed flying object around that area would have be blown out of sky even before it reached the pentagon...Its things like this that just don't add up.
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Posted: 2005-01-21 19:44:00
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i do agree however do you realise that everyday a plane stray into air space in the usa where it shouldnt be. so the air force are put on alert but often dont take off, its like the little boy who cried wolf after a while people just take it as the norm and assume its a false alarm. negligence isnt often a consirpsey thoery.
again i will mention how many people would need to be involved to stop the air force taking off and attacking a jet.
i think we will never know the full event s of 9/11 as i think there was a lot of negligence from various agency in the us and i believe that this is the real reason a lot of evidence will never be brought to life as the public would be in up roar that various dept did nt do there jobs right. not that the us gov commited the attack but the processes to stop it were poorly executed. i dont think there is a conspirsey by the us gov to attack its own soil. the only cover up i believe is that bin laden was able to so easily exploit the good old usa which they believed was impossible.
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Posted: 2005-01-21 20:15:16
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