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Gitaroo Posts: > 500


On 2015-08-31 23:35:06, ascariss wrote:
Well if the file is in HEVC (h.265) then it should be a smaller file when compared to a regular h.264 4k file.

I did notice something odd, it seems the Z3+ does not shot 4k video in HEVC, there is only h.265 for playback, not recording in the white paper. Where as the M5 supports both recording and playback of h.265. I wonder why Sony did not include it in the Z3+? Is it the overheating camera/cpu aspect+. And yes the 810 supports playback and recording in h.265.

hopefully Sony has fixed the overheating camera/cpu aspect and included HEVC recording, otherwise recording more than a minute or 2 of 4k on the Z5 may be the longest one can record, like in the Z3+ :/


Because even for a mid end SoC, helio x10 media capability is incredible. Better than any SoC out there infact, it is capable of doing 1080p 480fps and 4k @ 120Fps. I hope Sony will incorporate tech similar to nVidia G sync or AMD free sync on the 4k screen so in normal operation the screen can be operation at 1080p 120Hz. That's can eliminate most of the ghosting of LCD panel and also make it incredibly smooth as Long as the frame is is higher than 60fps.
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Posted: 2015-09-01 03:12:34
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penguino Posts: 221


On 2015-09-01 03:12:34, Gitaroo wrote:
Because even for a mid end SoC, helio x10 media capability is incredible. Better than any SoC out there infact, it is capable of doing 1080p 480fps and 4k @ 120Fps.

It's just a theory, somehow noone managed to get close to those numbers.
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Posted: 2015-09-01 04:02:38
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Gitaroo Posts: > 500


On 2015-09-01 04:02:38, penguino wrote:

On 2015-09-01 03:12:34, Gitaroo wrote:
Because even for a mid end SoC, helio x10 media capability is incredible. Better than any SoC out there infact, it is capable of doing 1080p 480fps and 4k @ 120Fps.

It's just a theory, somehow noone managed to get close to those numbers.


someone still need to write software to do that I would imagine. I think these mobile SoC have dedicated hardware to do certain things, thats why they are so efficient, not sure even a old i3 1st gen can even do that to be honest. 4K HEVC playback alone with software decoding on PC is super tasking, will need GPU support.
[ This Message was edited by: Gitaroo on 2015-09-01 04:18 ]

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Posted: 2015-09-01 05:16:52
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McKinley Posts: > 500


On 2015-09-01 03:12:34, Gitaroo wrote:

On 2015-08-31 23:35:06, ascariss wrote:
Well if the file is in HEVC (h.265) then it should be a smaller file when compared to a regular h.264 4k file.

I did notice something odd, it seems the Z3+ does not shot 4k video in HEVC, there is only h.265 for playback, not recording in the white paper. Where as the M5 supports both recording and playback of h.265. I wonder why Sony did not include it in the Z3+? Is it the overheating camera/cpu aspect+. And yes the 810 supports playback and recording in h.265.

hopefully Sony has fixed the overheating camera/cpu aspect and included HEVC recording, otherwise recording more than a minute or 2 of 4k on the Z5 may be the longest one can record, like in the Z3+ :/


Because even for a mid end SoC, helio x10 media capability is incredible. Better than any SoC out there infact, it is capable of doing 1080p 480fps and 4k @ 120Fps. I hope Sony will incorporate tech similar to nVidia G sync or AMD free sync on the 4k screen so in normal operation the screen can be operation at 1080p 120Hz. That's can eliminate most of the ghosting of LCD panel and also make it incredibly smooth as Long as the frame is is higher than 60fps.


G sync/free sync is not for ghosting. It is to eliminate the tearing effect PC gamers experience when moving left and right too fast.

Ghosting is related to the response time of a display.
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Posted: 2015-09-01 05:20:04
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Gitaroo Posts: > 500

I didn't say it was used for ghosting, 120hz to eliminate the ghosting, G sync/freesync to allow variable frame rate to eliminate tearing or stuttering. That will makes things very responsive assuming it can always operate above 60fps, but can S810 do that if it still throttle, probably not.
[ This Message was edited by: Gitaroo on 2015-09-01 05:08 ]

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Posted: 2015-09-01 06:07:29
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Xajel Posts: > 500


On 2015-09-01 04:02:38, penguino wrote:

On 2015-09-01 03:12:34, Gitaroo wrote:
Because even for a mid end SoC, helio x10 media capability is incredible. Better than any SoC out there infact, it is capable of doing 1080p 480fps and 4k @ 120Fps.

It's just a theory, somehow noone managed to get close to those numbers.


AFAIK, Helio x10 needs a combination of hardware and software to be able to do it... Some site mentioned the need of a specific Sony sensor model to support 1080p @480fps... and also fast enough internal storage.. or external storage to be able to save such files
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Posted: 2015-09-01 07:30:02
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jeff17 Posts: 46

Someone posted xperia z5c picture on sony xperia Indonesia Facebook group :-
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Posted: 2015-09-01 15:22:13
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Jamzy Posts: 143


On 2015-09-01 15:22:13, jeff17 wrote:
Someone posted xperia z5c picture on sony xperia Indonesia Facebook group :-


A link would be nice
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Posted: 2015-09-01 15:28:46
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Tizzo Posts: 242

Sony Ifa live stream link.....

https://community.sony.co.uk/[....]rom-sony/ifa-2015/ba-p/1999855
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Posted: 2015-09-01 15:31:19
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ascariss Posts: > 500

Well I was not expecting the convo to turn into a full discussion of 4k and encoding.


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Posted: 2015-09-01 15:39:53
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