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ADIDA Posts: > 500

Sony mobile phones this year, so what new features black technology, other manufacturers will carry forward next year

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Posted: 2018-05-08 05:39:11
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-XYZ Posts: > 500


On 2018-05-08 05:39:11, ADIDA wrote:
Sony mobile phones this year, so what new features black technology, other manufacturers will carry forward next year

Source: Zackbucks


This sentence doesn't make any sense.
In fact the way its phrased makes it seem like a question.

Why did you post this? What is the point of you?
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Posted: 2018-05-08 10:48:06
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john.smith19 Posts: 38

Wasn't Docomo summer models release supposed to have been happening this week? Maybe we'll see some XZ2P hands-on from Japanese reviewers
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Posted: 2018-05-08 17:13:37
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yuunanase Posts: 291


On 2018-05-08 10:48:06, -XYZ wrote:

On 2018-05-08 05:39:11, ADIDA wrote:
Sony mobile phones this year, so what new features black technology, other manufacturers will carry forward next year

Source: Zackbucks


This sentence doesn't make any sense.
In fact the way its phrased makes it seem like a question.

Why did you post this? What is the point of you?


It does make sense if you translate it back to Chinese. It said that the new phones will feature unique technology that will not be given to other manufacturers until later.
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Posted: 2018-05-08 18:40:04
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-XYZ Posts: > 500

https://www.sony-semicon.co.j[....]ebruary_2016/imx253_255_e.html

I have to wonder why Sony isn't using this sensor for its smartphones. Its big 1/1.1 with 12M pixels and has GLOBAL SHUTTER. Its neither EXMOR R or EXMOR RS, so is that the reason? Cause otherwise this thing would basically be unmatched for video.

12MPx Global Shutter sensor...That's unreal

If not the primary photography sensor, you could have it as the secondary (or Huawei style tertiary sensor) that's dedicated to video.
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Posted: 2018-05-08 18:47:32
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Ambivalent_ Posts: > 500


On 2018-05-08 18:40:04, yuunanase wrote:

On 2018-05-08 10:48:06, -XYZ wrote:

On 2018-05-08 05:39:11, ADIDA wrote:
Sony mobile phones this year, so what new features black technology, other manufacturers will carry forward next year

Source: Zackbucks


This sentence doesn't make any sense.
In fact the way its phrased makes it seem like a question.

Why did you post this? What is the point of you?


It does make sense if you translate it back to Chinese. It said that the new phones will feature unique technology that will not be given to other manufacturers until later.



Sony could be one of the first OEM's that get 5G modem and S855 SoC, since Sony is heavily betting their smartphone strategy on 5G. I am really looking forward to 4K Premium with S855!
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Posted: 2018-05-08 19:38:11
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Moe87 Posts: > 500

Depends on many things..

Some of their sensor are made for cars and security.
Amount of power it requires to work.
Bigger sensors are more expensive.
There is also design issues. People want something that looks good or just regular.
Those Nokia were pretty ugly.
Ask to any photographer, they will tell you pixel size is not as important as tech sites want you to believe.
HTC 10, Hyc U Ultra and Pixel 2016 all had 12MP/1.55 ( 7.81mm) = like 2nd cam of XZ2P
U11 and Pixel 2 have 12MP/1.4 ( 7.06mm) = both use same sensor
There is an old imx204 .. Nobody used it I think.
20MP , 1/1.7" , 1.43 micron


EDIT: about the FCC ID I left here yesterday. Does any one know if they are XZ3, XA2+ , R2 or something else?

BONUS :
https://youtu.be/oSfyN3AN6y4
https://youtu.be/Kqol8XhlrjQ

Just noticed, not first time, that in some situations XZ2 is overexposing sky.
Something previous phones did not do.
I dont know if the photos were taken before it could recognise as backlit scene or HDR is not working well.
[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-05-09 04:29 ]

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Posted: 2018-05-08 19:54:15
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Xajel Posts: > 500


On 2018-05-08 18:47:32, -XYZ wrote:
https://www.sony-semicon.co.j[....]ebruary_2016/imx253_255_e.html

I have to wonder why Sony isn't using this sensor for its smartphones. Its big 1/1.1 with 12M pixels and has GLOBAL SHUTTER. Its neither EXMOR R or EXMOR RS, so is that the reason? Cause otherwise this thing would basically be unmatched for video.

12MPx Global Shutter sensor...That's unreal

If not the primary photography sensor, you could have it as the secondary (or Huawei style tertiary sensor) that's dedicated to video.


According to the site this sensor is meant for industrial work. the global shutter is a must for some industrial applications like for example monitoring visual quality in a fast production line where the camera can snap a picture for each product while the whole production line is moving quickly

And like what Moe87 said, sensors comes with different features, specifications, requirements, working conditions, abilities to match a specific type of work.

While Global Shutter Sensors is perfect for video, but AFAIK global shutter sensors also requires more power to operate & more expensive to make and to make them work.. so not the best choice for a smartphone.
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Posted: 2018-05-09 07:59:45
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AlvinZahranM Posts: > 500

^ Yes, but I'm impressed at how good XZ2 stacks up against its competitions (S9+, P20/P20 Pro). XZ2 pictures are very sharp (which is important to me) with natural colours. Although its dynamic range could be improved as it is bad (software issue, maybe?)

I'll get my hands on my XZ2 next week. Fingers crossed...
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Posted: 2018-05-09 08:30:21
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josephnero Posts: > 500

A lot of my friends ( both real life and online forum etc) really like XZ2 compact but no Volte support is stopping them from buying it. I really can't come up with any argument honestly most cheap unlocked phones support Volte.
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Posted: 2018-05-09 08:31:32
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