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ascariss Posts: > 500

Comparing the device to a ZL? That's like comparing last generation BMW M3 to this year's BMW M4.

They should compare it to the Z2, or Z1 at least. As for the actual set up, not sure how perfect it is, a better real world set up in a real room with a real window would have been a better choice.

I am curious how the 2K resolution vs the full HD is also making things looks different on the screens on the device, where Nicole states the mediatek has a sharper image of the 'window'.
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Posted: 2014-07-17 12:39:02
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DexterMoser Posts: 443

^Yeah, that's kind of dumb. It also could be the result of X reality or tge shitty display of the ZL itself.
But I think in the video she mentions that both devices use the same sensor, which makes it a fair comparison.


In the description it says the 1080p 480fps Mode is only available with the 20MP IMX220 Sony Sensor, that's nice!
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Posted: 2014-07-17 13:19:31
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ascariss Posts: > 500

It would have to be the same 13MP sensor but from the article on mobilegeeks the sensor on the mediatek device is the 20MP one

http://www.mobilegeeks.com/me[....]-reference-design-hands-video/

The device itself actually looks pretty decent for a reference design, with what looks like a really nice 5 inch, 2560 x 1440 (2K) screen that looks visually stunning. The right side edge has dual SIM slots and a microSD slot plus micro USB, all in very visible positioning with the emphasis clearly on ease-of-access. The rear facing camera features a Sony 20.7MP sensor which, thanks to the new MediaTek platform is capable of shooting 1080p video at 480fps with Super-Slow Motion offering 1/16 slow motion playback.


So unless mediatek decided to make 2 prototypes, one sporting the 20MP and the other 13MP then that is fine, but from the article it seems there is only one prototype with the 20MP sensor and this is what we see in the video.
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Posted: 2014-07-17 13:40:51
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500


On 2014-07-17 13:19:31, DexterMoser wrote:
^Yeah, that's kind of dumb. It also could be the result of X reality or tge shitty display of the ZL itself.
But I think in the video she mentions that both devices use the same sensor, which makes it a fair comparison.


In the description it says the 1080p 480fps Mode is only available with the 20MP IMX220 Sony Sensor, that's nice!



I wonder if we'll see a high end Sony with that MediaTek CPU, Qualcomm better make that Snapdragon 810 damn good as MediaTek are fast becoming a major threat.
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Posted: 2014-07-17 14:07:46
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DexterMoser Posts: 443

Apparently there's a 13MP and a 20MP version of the Sony IMX220. Both on a 1/2.3" sensor size.
The 13MP one is rumored to be on the the new iPhone 6. See here:
http://www.macrumors.com/2014[....]ny-13-megapixel-imx220-sensor/

And the 20MP one should be on the Z3 according to Macrumors or their source.
Thus no 1/2.4" sensor for Z3?

Did I miss something or is this rumor really new?
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Posted: 2014-07-17 15:12:48
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ascariss Posts: > 500

If the 13MP sensor is 1/2.3, it is still bigger than the one in the old ZL which I feel is 1/3.0 just like the old Z. This is about 1.5 times the surface area and can catch more light and produces better images.

I feel there was no 1/2.4 sensor being produced or developed, would make no sense to make it that much smaller than comparing a 1/2.3 and 1/2.5 sensor size, it is so miniscule that nothing would be gained by making the sensor smaller. There is 0.5 mm difference in width between 2.3 and 2.5, and this would be even smaller with 2.3 and 2.4.

1/2.3
6.17 mm x 4.55 mm, area is 28.50

1/2.5
5.76 mm x 4.29 mm, area is 24.70

There is a 1/2.45 type sensor from sony, and this is from may of last year.
http://www.dpaonthenet.net/ar[....]n-one-colour-block-camera.aspx

but at 13MP, not what would have been destined for the Z3.

As for the new 13MP sensor for apple, well who knows, wouldn't be surprised, Sony does make some of the best camera hardware and sensors but somehow screws up it's software.

Only thing which can differentiate the Z3 now is the camera and proper software, because honestly hardware wise, nothing can be improved for the time being (please no posting about 2k displays or the SD805).
[ This Message was edited by: ascariss on 2014-07-17 15:22 ]

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Posted: 2014-07-17 16:18:03
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cu015170 Posts: > 500

13Mpix @ 1/2.3 makes perfect sense for the iPhone 6 ..

they said that they will be going for bigger pixels with the new device..

1/2.3 divided by 13Mpix gives you 1.9 micron pixels.. bigger than the Nokia N8's 1.75

Combined with mature jpeg processing + decent optics and we might have something to talk about
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Posted: 2014-07-17 20:36:38
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DexterMoser Posts: 443

^I'm kind of afraid of the new iPhone(s). I mean if it really turns out that way the rumor say, I am really impressed!! (but I won't buy it.) Therfore Im afraid it will take too much sales from Android manufactures like Sony, and that loss will only be good for Samsung and Apple.

I wonder how those hardcore 3.5" ehm I mean 4" is the ultimate screen size Apple fans will react...
The only option for them would be the Z3 Compact!


Btw what sensor does the Z2 exactly use? It's not the IMX220, isn't it??
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Posted: 2014-07-17 22:27:31
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Felimenta97 Posts: > 500

@DexterMoser I think those 3.5~4" fans will have to stay with the 5S. Z3 Compact is rumored to have a 4.6 inch screen, and the iPhone 6, suposely 4.7 and 5.5" models.
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Posted: 2014-07-17 23:37:30
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-XYZ Posts: > 500


On 2014-07-17 23:37:30, Felimenta97 wrote:
@DexterMoser I think those 3.5~4" fans will have to stay with the 5S. Z3 Compact is rumored to have a 4.6 inch screen, and the iPhone 6, suposely 4.7 and 5.5" models.



If the Z3c is the same or close to the same dimensions as the Z1c, then it'll be smaller than the iP6 based on the prototypes I've seen.
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Posted: 2014-07-18 01:27:44
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