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xpr Posts: 329

One of the main selling points of the Xperia 1ii is the screen. It seems that Oneplus 8 pro, at least on paper, takes the lead.

OP claim the following:
- 10 Bit display vs 8 Bit + frc for Xperia 1ii
- 40% less blue light. This indicates that they're using the newest Samsung panel. There's no indication that Xperia 1ii uses that panel.
- 1300 nits. Presumably Xperia 1ii won't come near that.
- 120Hz OP8 Pro vs. 60Hz Xperia 1ii
- 4k for the Xperia.
- Supposedly better color calibration for Xperia

Other areas where OP may have the lead:
- ufs 3.0 + turbo write.
- battery
- They use Nokias OZO tech. I wonder how Xperia will stack up against - Sony has mentioned several things about mic. For instance, wind noise filter.
[ This Message was edited by: xpr on 2020-04-18 12:41 ]

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Posted: 2020-04-18 13:40:38
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cool_sauce Posts: 369


On 2020-04-18 13:40:38, xpr wrote:
One of the main selling points of the Xperia 1ii is the screen. It seems that Oneplus 8 pro, at least on paper, takes the lead.

OP claim the following:
- 10 Bit display vs 8 Bit + frc for Xperia 1ii
- 40% less blue light. This indicates that they're using the newest Samsung panel. There's no indication that Xperia 1ii uses that panel.
- 1300 nits. Presumably Xperia 1ii won't come near that.
- 120Hz OP8 Pro vs. 60Hz Xperia 1ii
- 4k for the Xperia.
- Supposedly better color calibration for Xperia

Other areas where OP may have the lead:
- ufs 3.0 + turbo write.
- battery
- They use Nokias OZO tech. I wonder how Xperia will stack up against - Sony has mentioned several things about mic. For instance, wind noise filter.
[ This Message was edited by: xpr on 2020-04-18 12:41 ]



It's not true 10bit display it's still 8+2 only supported on native QHD+, if you lower it to FHD+ it's just 8bit. Sure as hell will be bright but not 1300 nits as claimed bright, more like around 800 in real life cases. Still much more than Xperia 1 and if hands on videos of X1II are any indication it's exact same panel as Xperia 1 doing 400 nits.
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Posted: 2020-04-18 13:57:37
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xpr Posts: 329

Would you care to share some evidence regarding OP's screen?
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Posted: 2020-04-18 17:03:49
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

When companies says 1000+ nits, they do same display mate.
White point that covers 1% of screen.
Oled will have more brightness as you decreased area used.
None of these phones can reach 1000 nits using whole screen.

Native 10bit is very expensive.

SD865 = 144Hz QHD or 60Hz 4K.
Sony cant unlock 120Hz again.

Creator Mode can push 1 to near 700 nits.
That is more than enough.
More nits = sooner burn in.

Bonus : main thread has specs of 5ii ... 😁
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2020-04-18 16:37 ]

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Posted: 2020-04-18 17:36:19
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xpr Posts: 329

I'm interested in the 10 bit issue in particular.
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Posted: 2020-04-18 19:37:19
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cool_sauce Posts: 369


On 2020-04-18 17:03:49, xpr wrote:
Would you care to share some evidence regarding OP's screen?


It's the same screen as in Oppo X2 Pro and there has been numerous independent display tests over the web already. It's an extremely good implementation of the panel none of the less. First things first that super high brightness is only available in Vivid Mode which has nothing to do with color accuracy. If you want color accuracy you have to switch to Natural mode and then display acts like Xperia 1 panel in Creator Mode which means you are limited around 500 nits manual and auto brightness goes to 800 (by 100 nits better than Xperia 1). Delta is still not as good as Xperia 1 Creator Mode but at such low values you can't really tell the difference. Also color reproduction (gamma tracking) is very good on various brightness levels, still not as good as Xperia 1 in creator mode but difference is not visible by the naked eye. Overall considering how bright it can be it's probably the best screen for general purposes, it does 95% of the stuff Xperia 1 does and it's a lot brighter.
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Posted: 2020-04-18 19:57:08
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ds2mph Posts: 19

GSMarena Wrote 1B colors on the spec sheet of OPPO Find X2 Pro and OnePlus 8 Pro but 16M colors on the spec sheet of Xperia 1, 5 They need to correct it.

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Posted: 2020-04-18 20:14:31
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RacSony Posts: > 500

X1ii and X5ii could come together in september?????
https://androidnext.info/?p=3583

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Posted: 2020-04-18 20:22:40
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xpr Posts: 329


On 2020-04-18 19:57:08, cool_sauce wrote:

On 2020-04-18 17:03:49, xpr wrote:
Would you care to share some evidence regarding OP's screen?


It's the same screen as in Oppo X2 Pro and there has been numerous independent display tests over the web already. It's an extremely good implementation of the panel none of the less. First things first that super high brightness is only available in Vivid Mode which has nothing to do with color accuracy. If you want color accuracy you have to switch to Natural mode and then display acts like Xperia 1 panel in Creator Mode which means you are limited around 500 nits manual and auto brightness goes to 800 (by 100 nits better than Xperia 1). Delta is still not as good as Xperia 1 Creator Mode but at such low values you can't really tell the difference. Also color reproduction (gamma tracking) is very good on various brightness levels, still not as good as Xperia 1 in creator mode but difference is not visible by the naked eye. Overall considering how bright it can be it's probably the best screen for general purposes, it does 95% of the stuff Xperia 1 does and it's a lot brighter.

Ok, thank you for the reply. Still remains to be seen what the Xperia 1ii packs though.
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Posted: 2020-04-18 21:41:23
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

Buks said once Creator Mode has delta 0.8.
Gsmarena says Find X2P can reach delta 0.7.

I do not think 1 ii will be delayed until september, maybe in China.
I doubt it will still be held after early june.


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Posted: 2020-04-18 22:12:26
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