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-XYZ Posts: > 500

Info is more about the sensor than it is about the phone.
Either way, Sony need to sort out their capture latency, which is way behind competition.
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Posted: 2014-07-20 16:46:15
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XperiaJunkie Posts: > 500

Not being clued up in camera tech would anybody care to elaborate on how this differs to the current sensor in the Z2 please.
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Posted: 2014-07-20 16:48:41
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-XYZ Posts: > 500


On 2014-07-20 16:48:41, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Not being clued up in camera tech would anybody care to elaborate on how this differs to the current sensor in the Z2 please.



Curved, fewer lens elements and clusters, as well as a wider overall aperture. Higher corner sensitivity and sharpness.

All of these being theoretical advantages. Yet to be proven.
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Posted: 2014-07-20 17:09:29
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XperiaJunkie Posts: > 500

^ Thanks for that
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Posted: 2014-07-20 17:11:53
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Wintermute Posts: 86


On 2014-07-20 15:00:33, Away wrote:
In my opinion, the Tegra k1 seems far more interesting. If for the quad a15 the power usage is what Nvidia claims it is on one of the slides. Though I strongly doubt it is...

Regardless, Denver is super, super interesting and Parker is even more so, though by the time Parker is found in devices, the new Qualcomm architecture will be found on devices too I guess.
[ This Message was edited by: Away on 2014-07-20 15:34 ]



Well, I agree about Denver K1, but I had kind of figured that it was DOA. NVidia seems to have thrown up its hands trying to get its SoCs into smartphones, so I just assumed it would continue to be all Qualcomm from here on out.
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Posted: 2014-07-20 18:23:35
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cu015170 Posts: > 500



So 2 groups of 4 elements

The 1020 has 1 group of 6 elements

The 808 has 1 group of 5 elements

Not sure what the difference between 1 and 2 groups is in practice, but the Sony lens has less elements which is one of the advantages of the new sensor tech.

Can't wait to see what it can do..

Also, its much wider!! 20mm is panorama like
[ This Message was edited by: cu015170 on 2014-07-20 19:01 ]

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Posted: 2014-07-20 19:59:21
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Xajel Posts: > 500

Yeah, I also noted the telephoto thing ( IPE : optical zoom )

while it should be that the sensor+lens assembly is capable of supporting optical zoom but it's optional.. but does this could mean that Sony might be able to add optical zoom in future devices without the need of thick device ? I mean how much the new sensor can make the lens assembly thinner.. and how thick is the optical zoom option ?

BTW, just to mention here, I already mentioned before but some may forget... Sony tends to have larger padding in top and bottom for several reasons, it's easier to hold with one hand and also can have the thick components in the margin to allow thinner device... if the camera was behind the screen, it will be thicker... thought duo to multiple factors, Sony might not always do this and the camera might be above the screen anyway...
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Posted: 2014-07-20 20:38:22
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rss_ndrsn Posts: > 500

Still no raw mode support?
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Posted: 2014-07-20 21:04:30
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-XYZ Posts: > 500


On 2014-07-20 20:38:22, Xajel wrote:
Yeah, I also noted the telephoto thing ( IPE : optical zoom )

while it should be that the sensor+lens assembly is capable of supporting optical zoom but it's optional.. but does this could mean that Sony might be able to add optical zoom in future devices without the need of thick device ? I mean how much the new sensor can make the lens assembly thinner.. and how thick is the optical zoom option ?


A zoom requires the lens elements to move if I'm not wrong. That increases the number of elements needed and a motor to move them. All this would need to be crammed into a thin profile. Makes me think that its not happening.

They might have an RX1000 which is a step down from the RX100, which has a zoom lens attached to this 2/3 sensor.
(don't go quoting this please, this is pure speculation)


BTW, just to mention here, I already mentioned before but some may forget... Sony tends to have larger padding in top and bottom for several reasons, it's easier to hold with one hand and also can have the thick components in the margin to allow thinner device... if the camera was behind the screen, it will be thicker... thought duo to multiple factors, Sony might not always do this and the camera might be above the screen anyway...


Yeah, this is why they have large top/bottom bezels (in addition to the dual front firing speaking).
Also allows a much larger battery.

EDIT:
Can someone calculate the pixel size for a 20MP on a 2/3" sensor?
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Posted: 2014-07-20 21:18:37
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ascariss Posts: > 500

Wait so what is this camera actually? because I am confused, it shows aperture blades, 6 of them, meaning you can modify the aperture as also posted, F1.2-9.8.

is this camera integrated or an attachment? Because I would be shocked if they added aperture blades to such a small camera.


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Posted: 2014-07-20 22:45:32
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