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vivftp Posts: > 500

Can someone confirm, is the XZ2 premium using the same primary camera sensor from the XZ2? Not the black and white sensor, just the normal one.

Curious because if it is the same sensor I wonder if the next Gen will use an improved sensor.
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Posted: 2018-05-23 22:23:59
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XperiaJunkie Posts: > 500

Same sensor just lower apature as Jo mentions on the opening page.
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Posted: 2018-05-23 22:27:35
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vivftp Posts: > 500

Sweet. I had thought I read that, but wasn't 100% sure.

Considering it's a 2 year old sensor that they're using that's quite good. I wonder what improvements the next gen of sensors will bring.
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Posted: 2018-05-23 22:34:23
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xpr Posts: 329

Hi guys,

I'm new here.

Regarding the XZ2P's sensor, AFAIK the sensor itself is the same, but some other things are different:
- According to Sony it's a redesigned 7 piece Lens G with f/1.8 aperture vs f/2 on the XZ2 or any other Xperia using the IMX400.
- The SD845 has new processing capabilities that Qualcomm developed together with Sony.

Here's an interesting thought: the monochromatic camera doesn't have stacked memory. This feature enables super slow motion, predictive capture and continuous focus burst. So in these situations the monochromatic camera won't be able to keep up with polychromatic camera.
[ This Message was edited by: xpr on 2018-05-23 22:08 ]

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Posted: 2018-05-23 23:03:33
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Moe87 Posts: > 500

Upper camera is the monochrome. There is a 12.2MP ( 1/2.3" , 7.81mm, 1.55 micron).
Behind lenses of 25mm and f 1.6.
Sensor like Spek said is a variant of imx380.
It has same specs of the sensor used by Pixel 2016.

Lower camera is the Motion Eye.


Someone somewhere ( DPREVIW I guess) explained that a monochrome can catch 2x or 3x more light compared to the RGB of same size.
So it is like having 3 or 4 rgb doing the job in the dark.

The link posted by @blackzeros shows XZ2P taking a pic in almost total dark, not using the flash.
I just did a test here, mine at ISO 12800 cant show my bed if I record a video nor taking pic without flash ON.

If XZ2P had flash ON, pic would be much better.
Everything on the wall was very easy to read.

Not even P20 Pro can do that with 4s shutter of Night Mode.
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Posted: 2018-05-23 23:36:59
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Tizzo Posts: 242

If anyone has a spare 50min I have posted I link to Sony Mobiles mid term plan Web cast audio presentation http://www.irwebcasting.com/2[....]7b1226fb1f/mov/main/index.html
[ This Message was edited by: Tizzo on 2018-05-23 23:51 ]

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Posted: 2018-05-23 23:51:06
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tk007 Posts: 173

They admit in design and development they are failure ! ( like slim bezel and dual lens camera)
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Posted: 2018-05-24 00:27:38
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tai020381 Posts: > 500


On 2018-05-23 20:10:39, blackzeros wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up17Dl0JicQ

@16-17th minute, they took a photo in dark with xz2 premium.


WOW JUST WOW
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Posted: 2018-05-24 03:49:24
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spektykles Posts: 367


On 2018-05-23 23:03:33, xpr wrote:
Hi guys,

I'm new here.

Regarding the XZ2P's sensor, AFAIK the sensor itself is the same, but some other things are different:
- According to Sony it's a redesigned 7 piece Lens G with f/1.8 aperture vs f/2 on the XZ2 or any other Xperia using the IMX400.
- The SD845 has new processing capabilities that Qualcomm developed together with Sony.

Here's an interesting thought: the monochromatic camera doesn't have stacked memory. This feature enables super slow motion, predictive capture and continuous focus burst. So in these situations the monochromatic camera won't be able to keep up with polychromatic camera.
[ This Message was edited by: xpr on 2018-05-23 22:08 ]



Thanks Capt. Obvious . I already said back in a while the monochrome sensor doesnt have stacked memory. However it will got one and super-slowmo data fusion is a thing in the future...Maybe not XZ3 but slightly later....
[ This Message was edited by: spektykles on 2018-05-24 03:19 ]

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Posted: 2018-05-24 04:18:59
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spektykles Posts: 367

https://corporate.fingerprint[....]th-biometrics-by-fingerprints/

Hmm, what Japanese OEM?
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Posted: 2018-05-24 04:23:54
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