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I am in agreement that Sony Ericsson needs to sort out many issues which are plauging their phones and disrupting their customer base.

a. Ive used five SE phones regularly and out of the K700i, K750i, W800i, W900i and P910, the K750, W800 and W900 had WSOD and/or EROM problems which were no fault of mine. My W900i is again acting up after I had it flashed and updated not so long ago.

b. I sell phones and have just started offering a repair service the man who does the repair work has his hands full with Sony Ericssons he hardly ever has any Nokias repairing. Sony Ericssons and Motorola phones are his bread and butter.

c. Many SE phones are fitted with housings that are not clasped together or fitted tightly together thus resulting in a lot of dust and dirt getting in between the housing. Two examples of this are the W900i and P800. I often use the edge of new paper to clean the sides of my W900i. Not even Nokia phones with changeable housings are as loose as some of these SE phones.

d. Swivel and flip mechanisms of SE phones are simply not sturdy in many models. Such as the S700i, W900i and Z530, Z600. Z600 with many hinge problems, S700i and W900i with many loose swivel problems and Z530 with the flip mechanism simply breaking.

Some people are going to argue in the case of the software problems its just a case of a simple flash. No its not the case of just a simple flash its an inconvenience to lose numbers etc when a phone is flashed, flashing costs money (even though cheap), some people have no international credit cards to use davinci etc. or are reluctant to use their credit cards online.

I have just posted personal issues that I have observed not to mention the W850 cracked keypad problems, the massive K800i EROM problems and so on.

SE phones are simply not as reliable as Nokia. Nokia in my opinion is miles ahead of the competition (and not not just because the have the N95 under their belt) Nokia consistenly produces and releases reliable and for the most part stable phones on the market. The are not perfect but they are a hell of a lot better than SE.

I believe that if Nokia's phones werent more expensive than SE a lot of people would realize that Nokia is indeed the best of the lot at the moment and should be for some time to come.

In addition, ive found that SE seems to be targetting youth more than any other segment.
If one visits http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson-phones-19.php its like your are looking at a few rainbows. The wide range of loud colours in my opinion is getting too far and design wise SE phones are not cutting much dash. In many instances ive seen where people have passed up good on paper SE phones for the offerings of other manufacturers because SE is lacking in the design department. They seem to be milking the W800i and K750i look to death and their new offerings are just revamped W800s and K750s in terms of design and functional specifications.

I wont even bother to mention the W880 which whether we like it or not is simply not the most appealing design.

Nokia seldom milks and milks a design, however, Motorola and SE really need to get more innovative in lots of areas.

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[ This Message was edited by: Adi23 on 2007-06-09 04:04 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-09 05:03:49
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How you can say Java is as good as a smart phone is beyond me, i think thats just taking it too far. Sure in a couple of years Java will be able to do stuff we can only dream off, but by then smartphones would have been evolved.
Bottomline, Java is no way near as good as a smartphone, any would know that
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Posted: 2007-06-09 09:19:47
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Dogman,

I respect what you say about SE being the most innotive however, there NOT. HOWEVER, NEITHER ARE NOKIA. Buying a phone is like buying cloths. Its all based down to your opinion and what you fancy. Some people want phones with absouloughtly no features. They just want to call and text and thats all based down on what they want, where as theres you and I and every one on esato who want a feature packed phone.

[ This Message was edited by: KingBooker5 on 2007-06-09 09:01 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-09 09:43:22
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im so god dame tired of this smart-phone-bullshit.

N95 software dosent even work properley. big deal to have a smart-phone when you cant use it.

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Posted: 2007-06-09 10:05:03
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if you're tired you can just stop posting here because you've been saying the same old crap you did when you first came here.
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Posted: 2007-06-09 10:15:30
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@Max,

Dude, you are a bit off base here. No one, thinks or is treating you as though you are stupid. Also, no one here has to agree with every thing you or anyone else says. This is called having a personal opinion. In my experiences with SE, I have been disappointed, disappointed and disappointed. To the point where I find satisfaction and what I need in another manufacturer. SE has been long on promise and short on delivery. Fact, fact, fact. Their current phone line-up is proof of this. In short SE is not the phone for me. Bottom line. Great they have Java, so does Nokia, Samsung, Motorola. To some degree, they are all implementing it in their devices to various levels of success and functionality, but this is only one technology, and it seems that you are building your hopes and argument on this one thing. I tend to look at a total package for my needs. Without giving away the store, I can tell you that Nokia has looked at and is considering touch screens but guess what Max, the world is not clamoring for them, only a few which is why Nokia is not putting them in their phones. The moment this changes, Nokia is more than capable and ready to make the switch, but until then TS will remain a niche market which SE has heavily invested in without, in my opinion, much return.

In the end, I still stand by my argument that for the moment, Nokia has the upper hand in innovation and not simply repackaging their phones.

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[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2007-06-09 01:35 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-09 10:16:24
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He has no other argument. You can see from his logic that he is limited in his responses and intellect.

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Posted: 2007-06-09 10:19:39
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You make him look like an idiot. Plankgaton, if you want to go and talk completly of topic go to another thread with all due respect!
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Posted: 2007-06-09 10:24:42
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Wrong my friend. Every time he opens his mouth he makes himself look more like an idiot. We just supply the issues, he supplies the stupidity. Win-win. He is such great entertainment.
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Posted: 2007-06-09 10:30:56
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What irritates me to a certain degree, is the firmware in SE phones.
When ever SE first release a new phone, there will always be a bug and they wait forever to fix the problem! Were as nokia do it as quickly as possible. It seems that nokia have the more "love" you could say for its customours then SE do. 2 years to this day, the latest walkman phones have the dreadful hiss. If they were really botherd about there customours they would fix the hiss as soon as possible. 2 years is just a joke. Most SE's are very simmiler aswell with maybe one or two extra features added in and give it a ridiculous price tag. Like sapporo says, they just repackage there products and have the nerve to call it a sucssesor where its the same god damned phone!
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Posted: 2007-06-09 10:35:02
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