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hii all
i'm very curious in developing a small application to the iphone.
however the darn SDK i found is only usable on a mac.
does one know how i could develop on a win32 system
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Posted: 2008-07-14 14:37:03
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I'm seriously conflicted about the Iphone.
Can I give up copy and paste? Document editing? TomTom??
I love the design, the screen, the ipod-ness, and the way things work - there's no question it looks and feels a hell of a lot better than Windows Mobile - but there's just so much missing.
Where's the task app? What's the point of in-built GPS if there's no TomTom-like app available? Why do I still want one?
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Posted: 2008-07-14 15:46:07
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On 2008-07-14 15:46:07, Boinng wrote:
I'm seriously conflicted about the Iphone.
Can I give up copy and paste? Document editing? TomTom??
I love the design, the screen, the ipod-ness, and the way things work - there's no question it looks and feels a hell of a lot better than Windows Mobile - but there's just so much missing.
Where's the task app? What's the point of in-built GPS if there's no TomTom-like app available? Why do I still want one?
1) Tomtom apparently is on its way!
2) You want one because Apple are The Master at Advertising and Promoting
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Posted: 2008-07-14 15:55:41
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@Boinng,
I guess you don't need a task list when there's no background tasking
I'm sure TomTom will fugure a way of marketing their product, even if it gets Apple branding! one way or another I'm sure there will be GPS voice routing software, as we've seen, there are lots of people out there prepared to do it themselves by any means!
Strangely, I note in the app store that there is an app called g-park which, it says, lets you
1. park your car and hit the Park Me! button
2. get lost
3. Hit the "Where did I park?" button which brings up google maps and creates turn-by-turn directions that will take you right back to your car.
in fact, google maps does a pretty decent job with the built in GPS but of course its not the same as tomtom or garmin as all you get is a purple line on the map showing you where you need to go and a blue flashing dot to see where you are now, and its your job to make the little blue dot follow the long purple line!
I have to say I got the same feeling you have when I wanted the 8800 when it came out, but that feeling didn't last long once I got it.
Its different with the iPhone... although many here compare tech specs to the nth degree, in my average daily routing the iPhone is a pleasant way to get stuff done, but yes, cut and paste is definitely still missed
All i can say is try it and if you don't like it just send it back
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Posted: 2008-07-14 16:00:50
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@scouser - yes, it's the marketing! Damn them!
@masseur - actually I mean Tasks as in a to-do list - I use tasks in Outlook all the time, and it's really going to irritate me not having access to those in the phone. I don't suppose there's anything to fill that gap in the app store? Not just a to-do list, but something that will sync with my list in Outlook/Exchange?
G park actually sounds pretty good - is that a paid for app or freeware? Is there much useful freeware?
If there was some official announcement on TomTom I'd be happier.. the exclusion in the SDK, coupled with Apple's deafening silence on the matter, is very disconcerting.
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Posted: 2008-07-14 16:09:25
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ah sorry, well there is a free todo app in which you can add, order and manage your todo items. it also has basic priority and you can add notes to the task. There's also a more comprehensive paid app for £5.99 that lets you sync with "popular online tools" like Toodledo or Remember The Milk (whatever that is!). take a look
here for more on that...
yep, g-park is also free and in fact there's already 100+ free (and useful/fun) apps + loads more in the sub £6 level that are worthy of consideration
as mentioned before, Apple specifically prohibit the use of the SDK to develop GPS applications for voice navigation etc so as I say, TomTom needs to create an app without the SDK, or come to some arrangement with Apple but I'm sure one way or another it will happen. With such a large userbase out there how could it not?
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Posted: 2008-07-14 16:17:38
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If you have a "to-do" list in your Calendar on Mac, when you synch the phone do the "to-do" items not sync also?
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Posted: 2008-07-14 16:22:47
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My amazing black iPhone:
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@masseur
The Shazam app is amazing, liked it, looks much better than

's Track ID
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Posted: 2008-07-14 17:59:01
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turn by turn coming to iPhone 3g (eventually, I guess!)
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Posted: 2008-07-15 09:34:05
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It's all still very vague though, isn't it... I'm coming around to the idea that the Iphone just isn't there yet, unfortunately. The lack of proper to-do lists is a big problem for me on a practical level anyway; I've looked into the third party task alternatives and exchange support is only possible via a few longwinded kludges at best; it's really something that needs to be built in along with the rest of the exchange support, and doubtless it will be on the Iphone 2.5 or whatever, but that's no reason to rush and buy the 2.0 this year.
The astonishing truth is that Windows Mobile is still the better OS - sure it's uglier, but in terms of the actual functionality it includes, and has available third party, it's many miles ahead still. Given it's totally open nature, and the fact that WM7 is bound to prettify things a great deal, it may well stay there too.
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Posted: 2008-07-15 10:48:03
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