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evilhomura89 Posts: 49


On 2013-11-08 18:52:58, Gitaroo wrote:
I dont know a lot about camera but I read it on XDA that OIS isnt magic, the OIS in N5 doesn't compare to the digital stabilizing in the Z1 at all. I'll see if I can find the post again.


hi, you managed to find that post?
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Posted: 2013-11-12 03:32:51
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milukugiuniu Posts: 291

Sony Expo 2013 will be held this evening in Shanghai. I'll be in there and share the information with you later.

AFAIK, there will not be any undisclosed devices showing up. Most likely, Z1 mini can be seen.


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Posted: 2013-11-12 03:47:17
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DrKnute Posts: 46

Thanks Milu!! I'm waiting for the US Z1s. Hopefully it gets released on the SONY site soon!!
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Posted: 2013-11-12 04:15:16
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Gitaroo Posts: > 500


On 2013-11-12 03:32:51, evilhomura89 wrote:

On 2013-11-08 18:52:58, Gitaroo wrote:
I dont know a lot about camera but I read it on XDA that OIS isnt magic, the OIS in N5 doesn't compare to the digital stabilizing in the Z1 at all. I'll see if I can find the post again.


hi, you managed to find that post?


http://forum.xda-developers.c[....]st.php?p=47139844&postcount=19

"N5 only has a 2 axis OIS which isn't all that great. Digital stabilisation can beat a 2 axis OIS."

Think I might have remember won't he didnt really say Z1 is way better. As I said I don't understand a whole lot about camera, just something I picked up when I was scanning through posts on XDA.
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Posted: 2013-11-12 04:42:04
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HxH Posts: > 500

find the fact before keep ranting on, it's kinda meaningless argument

Samsung Galaxy S4 and Note 3 won't get true octa-core update
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsu[....]_octacore_update-news-6908.php

although it has CCI fixed but unable to manage power and heat optimization
then what the point of true octa-core, for now it WILL NOT work like theory.

but we WILL SEE if this December bring miracle in to save your day?


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On 2013-11-12 04:42:04, Gitaroo wrote:

http://forum.xda-developers.c[....]hp?p=47139844&postcount=19

"N5 only has a 2 axis OIS which isn't all that great. Digital stabilisation can beat a 2 axis OIS."

Think I might have remember won't he didnt really say Z1 is way better. As I said I don't understand a whole lot about camera, just something I picked up when I was scanning through posts on XDA.


mass consumer won't care how many axis it is, they only care if have or have not.
and the device that haven't declare OIS status if often less considering option.
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2013-11-12 07:17 ]

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Posted: 2013-11-12 07:56:41
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Xajel Posts: > 500

My personal opinion is that if Sony want to be special and unique...

They must work on increasing the unit sales for their high-end phones, after that they can go to the next step...

Custom designed SoC, I'm not talking Sony building their own SoC no... but rather asking another company like Qualcomm or MediaTek ( I prefer Qualcomm ) to have custom built SoC... nothing from ground but more like Sony adding more custom functionality to the SoC so they can have unique features...

Like What ?
They can ask Qualcomm to build a special version of APQ8084 for example but without any unneeded silicon, there's no mobile phone maker that utilise all the features of the SoC they use in their mobile phone as the SoC is built to have different uses and configurations.. maybe only Apple do this...
So removing all the non-used logics and add custom hardware silicons to provide additional features... see for example Google did that with the Moto X, they added custom logics to the SoC for the always running Voice command for example

Sony can add Camera processor, Audio processor, Bravia engine all in hardware rather than software, now it's not possible to do this because it will require another chip in the phone for each one, increasing power and space used by the phone... but adding a mobile optimised logic for this will be unique... Qualcomm already have a custom programmable cores in their SoC which might be useful for this and I don't know if Sony is already using these or not ( they might for Bravia for example ) but having a more targeted and designed cores just for these will give better performance for lower power usage... and might allow Sony to add more features...

The problem with this concept is initial cost and time as it will require to custom design the special cores and software to fully optimise these features... but later Sony might have it very easy as they can just copy the same logic to any newer SoC that Qualcomm is made... and might be also do some more optimising and adding more features...

The rest of the SoC will be exactly the same as any other Qualcomm SoC, so from a developer perspective nothing is changed, Qualcomm will not need another specially developed drivers/API only for Sony...

But in the first place they have to make sure that their investment and work in these custom things can be justified by the sales and number of units sold... it's not logical to build a custom SoC like this for only few millions units... but if the logic is already there then it's possible ( like what Google did with Moto X, the logic is there so they licensed it and asked Qualcomm to have it in a custom SoC )
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Posted: 2013-11-12 08:59:39
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sami92a Posts: 423


On 2013-11-12 03:47:17, milukugiuniu wrote:
Sony Expo 2013 will be held this evening in Shanghai. I'll be in there and share the information with you later.

AFAIK, there will not be any undisclosed devices showing up. Most likely, Z1 mini can be seen.




in how many hours from now?
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Posted: 2013-11-12 10:49:59
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Ricky D Posts: > 500

Considering it's 6pm here in China I'd say anytime in the next couple hours at the latest.
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Posted: 2013-11-12 11:00:56
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sami92a Posts: 423


On 2013-11-12 11:00:56, Ricky D wrote:
Considering it's 6pm here in China I'd say anytime in the next couple hours at the latest.



so between 1-3 hours?
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Posted: 2013-11-12 11:10:20
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XperiaJunkie Posts: > 500

I take it there is no live stream for the event.
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Posted: 2013-11-12 11:12:17
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