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@vee

I just noticed something interesting. When using SETool to remove sounds or change them into something else, like message alert 5 above, then there is actually another version of the old sound left inside the phone... and it plays too!

Here's the situation. If you replace message alert 5 with your own midi file then the new file plays "through the phones loudspeaker" BUT if you are making a phone call when you recieve an sms, then THE OLD SOUND IS PLAYED DURING THE CONVERSATION INSIDE THE PHONES SPEAKER and you can hear it!!!

This is very strange. There must be a duplicate version of each sound file stored somewhere inside the phones firmware that we don't know of!

The above also goes for the camera/video sound. If they are removed, then everything is working as you want, well almost, because if YOU MAKE A PHONE CALL AND TAKE A PICTURE WHILE ON THE PHONE THEN YOU WILL HEAR THE SOUND ANYWAY inside the small built in speaker to your ear (as above for message alerts that are changed). This proves that each sound has two different versions inside the phone: ONE FOR THE REAL LOUDSPEAKER WHEN OFF THE HOOK and ONE FOR THE SMALL LOUDSPEAKER DURING A PHONECALL!

1) Who has any theory where these sound files are stored (the path to them for a script to use with SETool) and/or 2) What format
are they in (.mid, amr or other)?

There are lot's of different sounds that plays during a phone call (like the sound for initiating the recording of the conversation) and they are NOT in the above list you posted vee! The sounds you posted only goes for the sounds that play in the phones "real" loudspeaker when you are NOT in a phone call.

[ This Message was edited by: CyberVisitor on 2005-01-18 22:50 ]
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Posted: 2005-01-18 23:45:10
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Well, that explains the AMR version of the camerashutter which I changed then found out the MIDI version is the one you must change. Where I am gonna find a camera shutter sound in MIDI format is beyond me but the T610 has it so it must be possible (I know I could delete the camera shutter but I want some sound on the shutter just not that default thing).

I have noticed that there are two versions of the sounds. I remember checking my e-mails and when I got a new one the message alert 1 came from the earpiece speaker.

I think you'd be hard pushed to guess where these files are!
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Posted: 2005-01-19 01:02:09
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@~DC:UK~

According to the log in SETool I managed to delete a file called camerashutter.amr (besides camerashutter.mid) but the camera sound is still there "in the backgeound" when making a phone call. So, any amr files with the same name in the same directory isn't the ones that are the "duplicate" ones...
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Posted: 2005-01-19 07:17:28
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hi, I'll look around and let you know if I find soemthing interesting

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Posted: 2005-01-19 11:12:43
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I tested mine by dialing my voicemail and taking a picture and sure enough the camerashutter.amr I uploaded to my phone was the sound that I heard.

Maybe there are AMR versions of the sms tones, it might be worth trying a delete command on messagealert1.amr and see what happens. Obviously this would be better if the person had an unlimited account so it doesn't cost you anything.
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Posted: 2005-01-19 11:22:05
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here are some more *.amr names...

camerashutter.amr
disconnected.amr
discreet.amr
failure.amr
lowbattery.amr
messagealert1.amr
messagealert2.amr
messagealert3.amr
messagealert4.amr
messagealert5.amr
messagealert6.amr
notification.amr
progress.amr
reminder.amr
retrysuccess.amr
success.amr


I have really no time to test.
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Posted: 2005-01-19 12:04:21
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@~DC:UK~

I successfully deleted camerashutter.amr but the sound is still there when taking a picture when making a call. That's wierd when you say you have managed to replace it and that new sound is played when taking pictures while making a call. Are you sure it's the new sound and not the old?

I know this is not a big deal (to those who wonder why I think this is so important), but it's not about that - it's about tracking down the sound that plays when recording a phone call and that also plays for the other one on the other side of the line (who hears that the conversation is actually being recorded)... I want to delete that sound...

I figure it's either discreet.amr or progress.amr. Anyone with an idea which is played when?

[ This Message was edited by: CyberVisitor on 2005-01-19 18:30 ]
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Posted: 2005-01-19 19:28:51
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@all

Hmm... I now converted the midi sequence that I uploaded to the phone (that replaced messagealert5.mid yesterday) to a amr file. Replaced messagealert5.amr and I can now tell that the same sound is played in the phone when making a phone call and I recieve an sms as it plays when I'm not making a phone call. That's great! So, remember, if you want to change a message alert you ALSO need to convert the midi sound to an amr file and upload it to the phone with the same name of the file but with the amr extension instead of mid.

BUT I also deleted camerashutter.amr again and the sound is still playing when taking a picture while making a phone call - now that's wird!

Still trying to figure out the name of the amr file that plays when recording a phone call. It's really useless to have that feature now when the sound is playing every 20 second (the other person knows you are recording the phone call). In some countries (like my country) it's legal to record your own phone call without letting the other person know that you are recording it.
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Posted: 2005-01-19 20:41:22
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@ CyberVisitor

Good luck finding that one! I agree that sound is annoying and would best be removed. As to what it may be I have no idea. You could always go on the SETOOL forum and ask the mod (think his nick is The_Laser) to try deleting those sounds on his V800, he seems willing to try anything on it, no guts, no glory kinda thing!
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Posted: 2005-01-19 21:54:09
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@all

I finally figured out why the camera sound is still there when taking a picture when making a phone call! Here's the situation. If you delete an amr file that is supposed to play when making a phone call, then a default "beep" sound is played instead. This goes for all amr files! It's only when deleting a midi file (those sounds are supposed to play when not making a phone call) you don't have to upload an empty sound. If you delete an amr file, you need to upload a new one. In my case it's simple. I wanted no camera sound when taking a picture and I'm making a phone call. So I uploaded a complete empty amr file named camerashutter.amr and when it plays = no sound!

I'm still looking for the names of the two different sounds that plays when you record a phone call (one is the initial sound, and the second is the one that beeps every 20 second to remind that recording is turned on). Anyone who figures it out, please post it here!

[ This Message was edited by: CyberVisitor on 2005-01-19 21:11 ]
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Posted: 2005-01-19 22:10:32
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