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On 2014-07-24 18:44:52, itsjustJOH wrote:
Is this the "entirely new design"?
AFAIR Z3 was supposed to have a new design, but it was canceled duo to complexity and high-cost of mass manufacturing
So, this might be plan B
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Posted: 2014-07-24 22:46:47
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Why no plan C, cancel Z3!
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Posted: 2014-07-24 23:23:48
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On 2014-07-24 23:23:48, king-james wrote:
Why no plan C, cancel Z3!
very true, with iP6 being released at the same time, no one will notice anyway
sony has become apple of sorts with small updates and no radical improvements to the design. The only difference, apple sells tons of their crap and sony does not
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Posted: 2014-07-25 01:57:37
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The power button has been updated. It no longer has a base ring and the button itself is larger.
I think the frame looks enough of an update to call it a change in design.. just. I think going simpler on the edges runs the risk of looking less serious and more of a toy, but I've not seen/felt it in hand yet.
I really don't like the iPhone style earpiece (and mic hole) unless it means that they're putting in massive stereo speakers.
I'd consider this more seriously as an upgrade to my Z if the front was cleaner and the notification light wasn't so close to the corner.
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Posted: 2014-07-25 02:13:02
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By looking its specs I would not buy it as the internal memory,flash light are too 😞disappointing.
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Posted: 2014-07-25 03:08:51
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On 2014-07-25 02:13:02, Ricky D wrote:
I'd consider this more seriously as an upgrade to my Z if the front was cleaner and the notification light wasn't so close to the corner.
I believe one of the insiders said the notification Led on the international version would be different
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Posted: 2014-07-25 07:08:32
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On 2014-07-24 22:46:47, Xajel wrote:
\\r\\nOn 2014-07-24 18:44:52, itsjustJOH wrote:\\r\\nIs this the \\\\\\"entirely new design\\\\\\"?\\r\\n\\r\\n
\\r\\n\\r\\nAFAIR Z3 was supposed to have a new design, but it was canceled duo to complexity and high-cost of mass manufacturing\\r\\n\\r\\nSo, this might be plan B\\n
This is a very stupid excuse. Taking in consideration that Sony is trying to overprice it's products as much as possible. You can say that it isn't true, but if you look back, in the past 2-3 years, the products price/value ratio have clearly changed in a bad way, because Sony is trying to use premium price tags. Despite using quality materials and hardware, the premium price tag is only due to the Sony branding. At the same time it's a shame that almost any manufacturer can produce better results, with Sony camera sensors, but Sony praises itself, with the best of Sony slogan.
I've ever used Ericsson, Sony Ericsson phones and now Sony, and you can look down on Samsung, but they are now more innovative than Sony, because Sony totally lacks it. Just look at Samsung, LG, Nokia in the camera field, phase detection AF, laser AF, OIS. I think the Galaxy s4 zoom and particularly the Galaxy K zoom is a nice try to bring the cameraphone concept in the smartphone era, which nearly wanished after 2009. In the meantime Sony should have produced long ago a Cyber-shot T style Xperia with optical zoom, light wieght and compact size
size. But at Sony I don't see any minor sign of innovation, just everything is bigger, more, and said to be better, but you can't see any additional feature, or anything what could be called innovative. It also seems that Sony sent to vacation 1,5 years ago the designers.
For now Samsung's portfolio is also more well balanced. They have an offer in any price segment, in any size in a wide range of specifications. Sony focuses mainly on premium called, high priced, and big phones. Below 4,8 inch screen they only have the Z1 compact with 4,3 screen, which would be overall a good phone, and the E1, which is a joke (you can buy a Samsung with AF+led camera, and a more mature design for that price, because the E1 has a kind of toy-omnibalance design, so I don't know who is that stupid person, who for that price buys exactly the E1). They even don't care about the weight of the phone. Except E1, the lightest is the Z1 compact with 137 g, which isn't a light weight, upper limit in weight of Sony phones is up to the starry sky.
After using for years Sony Ericsson phones I've recently bought an Xperia V, because I realised that I maybe won't ever find a phone with this specifications, this size and wieght, because all capable Xperias are heavier, bigger. Why have I bought just in the past month the Xperia V? Because I was waiting for a more convincing device, but I haven't found one yet.
And this half year update schedule is just something insane. The Xperia Z1 appeared on the shelves, not more than 9 months ago, but is nearly forgotten. While the first Z2 users can't have their phone for more than 4 month, we are waiting the announcement of Z3. And because we all know that it will be just a repacked Z1/Z2, it isn't on the shelves, it isn't even announced, but we are already waiting for the Z4, and from the past experiences I don't expect anything revolutionary from that device.
I am prepared that I'll get a lot offence from blinded Sony fans, (in spite of I consider myself a Sony Ericsson fan, but not blinded). But, just think about some things what I described, that there is some truth in it...
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Posted: 2014-07-25 08:58:00
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On 2014-07-25 08:58:00, puestadelsol wrote:
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On 2014-07-24 22:46:47, Xajel wrote:
\\r\\nOn 2014-07-24 18:44:52, itsjustJOH wrote:\\r\\nIs this the \\\\\\"entirely new design\\\\\\"?\\r\\n\\r\\n
\\r\\n\\r\\nAFAIR Z3 was supposed to have a new design, but it was canceled duo to complexity and high-cost of mass manufacturing\\r\\n\\r\\nSo, this might be plan B\\n
This is a very stupid excuse. Taking in consideration that Sony is trying to overprice it's products as much as possible. You can say that it isn't true, but if you look back, in the past 2-3 years, the products price/value ratio have clearly changed in a bad way, because Sony is trying to use premium price tags. Despite using quality materials and hardware, the premium price tag is only due to the Sony branding. At the same time it's a shame that almost any manufacturer can produce better results, with Sony camera sensors, but Sony praises itself, with the best of Sony slogan.
I've ever used Ericsson, Sony Ericsson phones and now Sony, and you can look down on Samsung, but they are now more innovative than Sony, because Sony totally lacks it. Just look at Samsung, LG, Nokia in the camera field, phase detection AF, laser AF, OIS. I think the Galaxy s4 zoom and particularly the Galaxy K zoom is a nice try to bring the cameraphone concept in the smartphone era, which nearly wanished after 2009. In the meantime Sony should have produced long ago a Cyber-shot T style Xperia with optical zoom, light wieght and compact size
size. But at Sony I don't see any minor sign of innovation, just everything is bigger, more, and said to be better, but you can't see any additional feature, or anything what could be called innovative. It also seems that Sony sent to vacation 1,5 years ago the designers.
For now Samsung's portfolio is also more well balanced. They have an offer in any price segment, in any size in a wide range of specifications. Sony focuses mainly on premium called, high priced, and big phones. Below 4,8 inch screen they only have the Z1 compact with 4,3 screen, which would be overall a good phone, and the E1, which is a joke (you can buy a Samsung with AF+led camera, and a more mature design for that price, because the E1 has a kind of toy-omnibalance design, so I don't know who is that stupid person, who for that price buys exactly the E1). They even don't care about the weight of the phone. Except E1, the lightest is the Z1 compact with 137 g, which isn't a light weight, upper limit in weight of Sony phones is up to the starry sky.
After using for years Sony Ericsson phones I've recently bought an Xperia V, because I realised that I maybe won't ever find a phone with this specifications, this size and wieght, because all capable Xperias are heavier, bigger. Why have I bought just in the past month the Xperia V? Because I was waiting for a more convincing device, but I haven't found one yet.
And this half year update schedule is just something insane. The Xperia Z1 appeared on the shelves, not more than 9 months ago, but is nearly forgotten. While the first Z2 users can't have their phone for more than 4 month, we are waiting the announcement of Z3. And because we all know that it will be just a repacked Z1/Z2, it isn't on the shelves, it isn't even announced, but we are already waiting for the Z4, and from the past experiences I don't expect anything revolutionary from that device.
I am prepared that I'll get a lot offence from blinded Sony fans, (in spite of I consider myself a Sony Ericsson fan, but not blinded). But, just think about some things what I described, that there is some truth in it...
did you use a web translator to translate these sentences from a different language to English?
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Posted: 2014-07-25 09:10:00
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@supercoolman
When I've read again, I realised that here and there isn't perfect the composition, but I had no patience to rewrite/correct it on a phone's touchscreen. But, just simply don't understand what I've wrote if you don't want to.
I guess you're a native English speaker. Instead of mocking would be nice from you to correct my mistakes, so I could learn from them.
[ This Message was edited by: puestadelsol on 2014-07-25 09:16 ]
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Posted: 2014-07-25 09:31:00
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Google translator or not he has a point.Sony's portfolio this year,has been rather weak.Xperia Z3 looks rather underwhelming,I can't think of a single feature that makes it more exciting or interesting than Xperia Z2.At least they could try differentiate their portfolio..what about releasing smartphones with 4.5"-4.7" 1080p displays or 5.5"-5.7" 1080p displays.Last year they took the unorthodox way and released a smartphone-tablet with a 6.5" display that had lackluster sales due to its huge size.
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Posted: 2014-07-25 09:43:49
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