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Moe87 Posts: > 500

Except dual cam, will the XZ2s/XZ3 have something else different from XZ2?
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Posted: 2018-06-06 16:46:57
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pigletsquid Posts: 61

Is it even a given that the XZ2s/3 will have the dual cam? Will they be able to fit it in a body of same dimensions as the XZ2?

Also does anyone know if there is any upgrade to super slow-mo in the XZ2 Premium (i.e. length of recording time allowed), or is it the same as XZ2?
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Posted: 2018-06-06 17:43:44
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Ppl Posts: > 500


On 2018-06-06 13:11:41, AlvinZahranM wrote:
that's what I was talking about. But shorter and has full speaker with one camera at the centre. They could tweak the design to be as comfortable as ambient flow, despite the humongous thickness.


Well, imo bezels are not really the problem. Weight and thickness are far more important than bezels. Material also should come before bezels. But it's just me. Better front cam is worth the bezels. I believe they can do better, but seems like they don't want to waste any concept they created. We literally have seen all of the leaked designs except for 2. Y design and the all glass transparent one.

They should get rid of those and go fresh already.
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Posted: 2018-06-06 18:03:32
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pigletsquid Posts: 61

Bezels are important because they dictate 1: how the front of the phone looks, and 2: the screen-to-body ration and hence the overall size of the phone. The front design sells phones, as the average consumer will see it in a shop and base their decision on how it looks, and the s-t-b-ratio, well I'm sure most people would pick a 6-inch display in a smaller body over a 5.5-inch display in a larger one.

For me XZ2 bezels are fine, but XZ2 Premium bezels are too big, one of the main reasons why the phone itself is so massive (although for some people even XZ2 is too big probably).
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Posted: 2018-06-06 18:17:45
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Moe87 Posts: > 500

Spek told us once that when panel is curved it has to be larger than flat panel to cover the entire back.
With XZP Sony started to use graphite layer instead of heat pipes.
That video on youtube channel PHONE BATTLES tells all. After 3h of 4K there was no overheating pop up warning.

Sony phones have always been heavier. S6 Edge and Z3+ have almost same size.
Both are dual glass, but s6e is too light, like plastic phones.
Even the Gran Prime feels much heavier.



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Posted: 2018-06-06 18:28:29
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Lonewolf223 Posts: 361

Atleast sony should look into its competitors for some creativity.

They shouldn't out flags that are too heavy and too thick and still the insides dont justify them.
If xz2 had 4000mah battery the added thickness and weight would have been a plus.

We shouldn't defend sony like blind fan boys.

And z4 is one of the most lightweight and compact phone in its time.
S6 had no ip68 rating and had a smaller battey and camera hump.
I will choose the z4 anyday
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Posted: 2018-06-06 18:58:03
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M-Ali Posts: 109

They should bring back creative designs from the past like arc and those light bars from sp j v z2 etc xz2 with front speaker grills like z5 with ligh bars would look wonderful with music playback support etc
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Posted: 2018-06-06 19:31:17
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pigletsquid Posts: 61

The light bars could look pretty cool if made of glass, just space would be an issue... and would be quite brittle I guess.
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Posted: 2018-06-06 19:40:52
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moogoo Posts: > 500

I think they could definitely incorporate light bars without losing any build quality. the glass used in the devices are essentially painted on the inside. they can just not paint a bar or frost it to allow LEDs to shine through. if they choose metal, they can create microscopic holes to allow light through, like on a battery status for aluminum laptops.

as for creativity, it would be nice to see a phone like no other. But the trend is everyone is starting to look pretty much the same these days. even google's pixel 3 is rumored to have a notch now... hideous.

I think Sony should leap frog the rest and work on a true full screen phone that is actually coming to market. Yes the vivo exists, but it's not coming to market any time soon. If sony can do a true full screen device with amazing specs and one of a kind features, they will recapture a lot of attention and in turn, market share.

sony likes to be the first at things... first in waterproofing, first in 4K, first in super slow mo, etc... they need to be the first to have a full screen phone with 4K display. it's the only feature right now that will get true attention from consumers. sony needs to look at the trends, and jump ahead of everyone else.. and then, if possible, take it to the next level and bring a trademark sony feature that makes it a sony. the dual cam module with the insane low light capability is a great start. no doubt, people care about that.
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Posted: 2018-06-06 20:24:03
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Moe87 Posts: > 500

@moogoo something like this ? Except pop up selfie because it is ugly..

https://www.gizbot.com/photos[....]ty-concept-design-images-3883/
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Posted: 2018-06-06 22:03:00
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