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On 2015-10-13 20:20:00, thetube wrote:
2. I believe we'll see a Z5+ and Z5 Tablet and Z5 Ultra (alas!) at MWC.
I also hope for Z5+ Compact (Or Premium Compact, whatever) with FHD display and 4GB of RAM. That would be a killer.
PS. It's likely that Z6 may get SD820 SoC manufactured in 10nm process. Why? Because Samsung should be ready for mass production in H2 2016 and rumor says that they'll just switch for SD820 as well.
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Posted: 2015-10-13 22:09:01
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So if Sony do shrink and, like you said, still provide 2 years of support, should I wait for the Z6 for the Snapdragon 820 chip or will the Z5+ or Ultra have it?? Either way, that's the chipset I want my next phone to have. I worry about having a screen that's more than 5.5 inches as I believe that may be unmanageable and too big. For context, I have the original Z. I think you've re-assured me regarding getting a decent amount of support (new Android versions, update-wise). I'm just wondering whether the first 820 chip Sony phone will definitely be *before* IFA 2016. I am too impatient to wait that long, but could theoretically just get the phone off carrier and unlocked once released as I am on SIM only. Do you think the Z5+ (if it does have an 820) is XR4 and above roumour-wise? Am I just better off waiting for the Z6 which is almost guaranteed to have it? Do most of you guys see Sony still providing the same level of software support even if they do shrink - not quit the mobile sector?
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Posted: 2015-10-13 22:38:13
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Well leaksfly in weibo (very very credible) stated clearly that Z5 Ultra will have SD820. So if Z5+ also exists, they will upgrade the chipset and ram in order to complement + variant. They can't upgrade the camera and unlikely display so they only have chipset and ram. So I would wait for March to take a look at Sony offerings. Only itch is Z5+ might not be released globally.
I completely trust Sony for software support whether they shrink/quit. It's a Japanese thing. Kind of like their business ethics.
For the rating, I don't know a lot about Z5+. But it is %80 probable that a Z5 Ultra exists.
If you have time, I would say wait for IFA if no Z5+ because new design language is coming.
@penguino
Yeah the miku edition was talked about a while ago, but I don't think Sony will release a new compact just yet. Anyways it would be a killer if they did.
[ This Message was edited by: thetube on 2015-10-13 22:20 ]
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Posted: 2015-10-13 23:13:00
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Xperia Z5 VS iPhone 6S
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Posted: 2015-10-14 08:13:28
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DxOMark is a joke and shouldn't be taken seriously. One of many examples, Nokia 808 PureView is almost last in this comparison while it wins hands down with all mentioned phones (It's hard to beat 1/1,2" sensor
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Posted: 2015-10-14 17:59:02
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^ they are using their own criteria so from that perspective the results are in fact legit..
Now, when it comes to real world performance and IQ the results from their tests don't hold any value at all.
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Posted: 2015-10-14 23:43:23
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if only people learn to read beyond the final dxomark score. the sub-scores tell the whole story you need.
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Posted: 2015-10-15 00:04:12
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On 2015-10-15 00:04:12, miromiromi wrote:
if only people learn to read beyond the final dxomark score. the sub-scores tell the whole story you need.
Ok let's see, we will use a Nokia 808 for example. Let's look at flash score, just as a reminder, 808 PureView is equiped with a real xenon flash, just like any digital camera. We will compare it with Z5 (because it's first in the table). Z5 comes with normal LED flash, which is probably pretty weak (I know from experience that Z3 LED flash is, so I'm assuming not much has changed) And here are the scores:
Flash score from DxOMark Mobile
Nokia 808 PureView: 81
Sony Xperia Z5: 91
So in some way you are right, the sub-scores tell me all I need to know, DxOMark is a total bullshit
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Posted: 2015-10-15 17:43:02
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The score for flash is more than just how bright the flash is. The most important factor with flash photography is how the sensor exposes the shot after the flash. Evidently, while the Z5 has a weaker flash in terms of brightness, it must produce much better exposures than competing cameras.
What about that is bullshit?
What makes any of you here so qualified in terms of photography to do boldly claim that DxOs scores and methodology is flawed, just because the numbers do not align with your predispositions.
Note, the Z5 has poorer noise and artefact scores than other leading smartphones, but is much better in other areas such as exposure, white balance autofocus, etc. Which is what makes it the beat smartphone camera to DxO.
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Posted: 2015-10-15 18:47:58
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Is putting a number on something so subjective as rating of a flash is giving an accurate view of reality?
Reverse that.
Is putting a number of something so subjective as rating of a flash total bs?
Q: Who would win in a race between a cheetah and a sailfish?
A: Depends where they're racing (in the Atlantic or the Serengeti)
Understand the reasoning, not the scores, and one might find why one flash is not as good as another in the given circumstances and the point of view of the tester.
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Posted: 2015-10-15 18:52:38
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