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Hi Alvin, my idea is to keep sensors vertical.
Just like XZ/XZs.
But on the right or left side of camera.

I like the design of Neo V.

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Posted: 2018-06-10 21:56:41
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@Moe: oh I see..

@badassmam: I think I prefer Ambient Flow rather than the Xperia P-like design, if the shape really looks like that, then it will be awkward to hold, albeit the curved back. That design looks like Xperia L2, tbh.

The arc design looks good, though (if it's made correctly). They need to bring the arc design but make it curvier at the top and bottom, make the screen larger (~86% stbr) by eliminating a bit of the bottom bezel and make the side bezels look like XA series, put curved glass on the back.

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Posted: 2018-06-10 22:57:30
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Looks like someone left a comment , I guess on XB, that those specs days ago of XZ2s/XZ3 are fake.
He says the only 100% true info is that the device is thinner and it is because of Oled.



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Posted: 2018-06-11 02:28:32
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I don't even think that both of them are true.

First rumour is fishy because I don't think the dimension will be the same as XZ2, because it has that dual camera. If the changes are like from XZs to XZ1, then I'll believe those rumours just because they're the same phone with very small changes. But if they are adding a dual camera there, the dimension should change no matter what. Even XZs and XZ1 doesn't share a same dimension, albeit similar.

Second rumour is also bogus because I don't think Sony will adopt OLED yet, since OLED for phones are still bad, except OLED displays from S8/S9. I doubt Sony will use OLED displays from Samsung. I'd rather use a great LCD like the one on xz2 rather than bad/so-so OLEDs from Huawei, Vivo, LG, etc.

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Posted: 2018-06-11 07:41:10
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Xperia P's curves were more subtle, but it still curved from top to bottom and side to side. Make the curve more prominent and round the frame voila you have Ambient Flow. The problem is that chubbiness weren't much of a thing back then because other brands were also not so thin and phones were smaller. Not to mention P's back design which was named human curvature was used by Motorola and HTC later.

Arc design however, is undoubtedly Sony. I never saw anybody else daring to copy it. That's why I think if there's a 10th year phone it should feature this design. This is just my opinion but I think Arc is the most beloved design of Sony. There's also a concept video, Xperia Arcage. Even as an amateur concept it looks nice. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laBoCdI3-44 for the ones who wanna see it). 3D glass back with an arc would look stunning.

AF needs to remove bezels and be thin enough so it would look like a floating screen on the table. That's the only way I see it being successful.
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Posted: 2018-06-11 12:12:00
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Asus has few oled monitors, oled from JOLED.
At the moment I more curious to know if XZ2P is coming on thursday.
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Posted: 2018-06-11 12:26:56
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Alvin, it is not about how much they try hard

reviewers are very likely to have cherry pick unit with less problems as possible
those media never ever told us how garbage the QC from those who suffers at all

that's why their devices get so much pump from media year after year and opposite receiving from sales.

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OLED is not bad, if you have invest much enough for it

iPhone X is true example
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Posted: 2018-06-11 13:05:11
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Was Aube created by Mobile or Alpha team?
Wish they could prevent other from copying..


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Posted: 2018-06-11 15:33:34
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I think Arc will never happen. Maybe the other Xperia P design was an early idea and like the members here have highlighted, not the most ergonomic design. What I did extract from some Sony guys is that the flagships now have to be able to do something like 30 minutes 4K recording without overheating and maintain high processing performance. Perhaps a slim body compromises that which is why the S8 could only do 10 minutes of 4K, not sure about the S9 though. If this is the case then maybe the flagship needs a smaller screen to give it a smaller footprint and then have a massive plus device. Make the Premium an ultra high end device like the Note but not necessarily as a competitor.

I'm a big fan of the Compacts and always end up with one after having the main flagship, I'm alright to compromise a little but the XZ2 Compact is too ugly. I do worry that if the iPhone SE looks as good as its renders then I'd end up with one of those. I'm actually very tempted by some of the smaller notchy phones because the XZ1 Compact is tearing holes in my jeans as pigletsquid said.
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Posted: 2018-06-11 16:19:36
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Samsung has always limited 4K. Even S5 had time limit.
S8 is thicker than xz1.
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Posted: 2018-06-11 16:43:23
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