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bavlondon2 Posts: > 500

Ah ok thanks for clearing things up.

This is so difficult now. I know i definatley dont want the iphone but im stuck for choice between this or the w960.
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Posted: 2007-06-16 16:49:46
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mib1800 Posts: > 500

By the time K850 is available widely it will be close to xmas.
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Posted: 2007-06-16 16:51:56
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RandomCarpet Posts: 202


On 2007-06-16 16:27:54, mib1800 wrote:

On 2007-06-16 16:16:10, thecoolsha wrote:
It's better this way. No matter what, the glass would get dirty even with the lens protector in front of the glass. This way makes it impossible to get grease in between the glass and lens protector. It's actually some pretty good thinking. And please.. if it wasn't going to work, then they wouldn't have done it. It's not like they let a kid and his friend do the drawings / plans and tests.


You didnt think this thru. The whole purpose of the lens protector is to reduce the lens from getting dirty. Now the lens get dirty easily which defeats the purpose of the lens cover in the first place.


You obviously don't realize that the main function of the lens protector (in all types of camera) is to prevent intense light from entering, which could otherwise be very harmful for the lens. This function is much more important than protection from dust and even scrath protection.
In the K850 case all these 3 functions are well covered.
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Posted: 2007-06-16 16:52:40
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Mizzle Posts: > 500

@bav - no problemo


On 2007-06-16 16:52:40, RandomCarpet wrote:
[...]the main function of the lens protector (in all types of camera) is to prevent intense light from entering, which could otherwise be very harmful for the lens. This function is much more important than protection from dust and even scrath protection.
In the K850 case all these 3 functions are well covered.


Well said
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Posted: 2007-06-16 16:54:30
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sim0n_ Posts: 82


On 2007-06-16 16:16:10, thecoolsha wrote:
It's better this way. No matter what, the glass would get dirty even with the lens protector in front of the glass. This way makes it impossible to get grease in between the glass and lens protector. It's actually some pretty good thinking. And please.. if it wasn't going to work, then they wouldn't have done it. It's not like they let a kid and his friend do the drawings / plans and tests.


no, we mean, why is a lens cover there? not the glas one. but that shuter, that openes when u open camera aplication. why did they put it in, if there alredy is a plastic cover in front of the lens. it, could brake down and u'll have big inconviniance, cause u'll have to take phone to repair shop. and i't makes the phone more exspensive. and it takes more time that te camera starts(cause the suter has to be opened).

or it has some other meaning than just keeping away the dust(whitc there arent any-cause of the plastic cover)
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Posted: 2007-06-16 16:56:17
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Amras Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-16 12:06:00, kreacher wrote:

On 2007-06-16 11:54:31, QVGA wrote:
this isnt a statement against K850, but QVGA on a 2.4'' screen is not too pixelated, infact its not pixelated at all. i've seen iMATE devices with 2.8'' screens which are QVGA and are perfectly fine.

I've compared my K790 with N73 side by side and the K790 screen looks much sharper.


I have argued with QVGA earlier about 2.0, 2.2, 2.4 whatsoever.
And from that discussion, we're just different. Some people like the screen to be large, while the others like them to be small with more sharpness.

For me 2.2" even is too large. As for QVGA 2.8" may be just not large enough.
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Posted: 2007-06-16 16:58:20
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Mizzle Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-16 16:56:17, sim0n_ wrote:

On 2007-06-16 16:16:10, thecoolsha wrote:
It's better this way. No matter what, the glass would get dirty even with the lens protector in front of the glass. This way makes it impossible to get grease in between the glass and lens protector. It's actually some pretty good thinking. And please.. if it wasn't going to work, then they wouldn't have done it. It's not like they let a kid and his friend do the drawings / plans and tests.


no, we mean, why is a lens cover there? not the glas one. but that shuter, that openes when u open camera aplication. why did they put it in, if there alredy is a plastic cover in front of the lens. it, could brake down and u'll have big inconviniance, cause u'll have to take phone to repair shop. and i't makes the phone more exspensive. and it takes more time that te camera starts(cause the suter has to be opened).

or it has some other meaning than just keeping away the dust(whitc there arent any-cause of the plastic cover)


I think RandomCarpet just answered that question for you a few posts earlier up

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[ This Message was edited by: thecoolsha on 2007-06-16 16:00 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-16 16:58:38
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sim0n_ Posts: 82

ups, sorry!

i get it.. intense light!

you write so quickly

[ This Message was edited by: sim0n_ on 2007-06-16 15:59 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-16 16:59:08
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mrdoubleb Posts: 35

I can remember reading it somewhere - probably here - from someone reliable (shaliron? xumdeo?) that the k850i will hit shops in Europe on the 41st week, that being the week starting with Monday, October 8th.

I don't know how accurate this info is, and , of course, SE can change it any time.

BTW, it appears to me that the k850i is ready and the HW is finalized so it's only some firmware refinement that needs to be done (the first photos looked awful). Why hold it back until October? do they really need 4 months to work out the bugs and ramp up production?

(edited for spelling)

[ This Message was edited by: mrdoubleb on 2007-06-16 17:14 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-16 17:14:26
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RandomCarpet Posts: 202

I hope that the external glass protector is indeed scratch resistant, otherwise the troubles it could create would be more than its advantages.

[ This Message was edited by: RandomCarpet on 2007-06-16 16:18 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-16 17:16:32
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