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Posted: 2013-11-12 17:44:07
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Hello Guys! It's been long I haven't been here around, hope you all doing good.
I've got just another sad news, my XZ is dead.

I wanted to ask you guys if there is a new phone coming soon by sony, like the successor of Z1 or any other flagship phone?
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Posted: 2013-11-12 17:54:51
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Z1S
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Posted: 2013-11-12 18:02:40
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@HxH thanks for the link

but my point is that the SoC is more powerful in addition to having HMP.. samsung is choosing not to put it phones, which is a different argument. before you tell me what to do it would be nice if you read what i wrote. i was making a statement about performance power of a SoC against another. The smaller devices get the less room there is for heat.. aNd 8 cores is a lot to deal with in
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Posted: 2013-11-12 18:04:10
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@XperiaCute
seriously? come on, let's be realistic. they are not going to announce a new premium device (tablet z with a s800 is a new premium device) at a small show in china (!), and definitely not before CES. leave them something to announce at CES.

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Posted: 2013-11-12 18:08:43
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Get her the Z1 Mini if available
(gift obstacle resolved)
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Posted: 2013-11-12 18:11:02
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@my ninja
In order stop going in circles, i'll will bring proof. Look at the iPhone 5 (not the 5s) review at Anandtech. When exploring Swift, Anand did a pretty good job comparing it with Krait and A15. Once you read all he had to say about Swift (4 or 5 pages IIRC), you'll understand how little A15 and Krait share in common (I know the last sentence sounded weird ). There are even diagrams comparing the architectures. In fact, most of the review was dedicated to A6 and (more importantly for us in this particular context) how it compares with the competition.
When I said don't compare smartphone and desktop, what i meant wasn't "don't compare their capabilities". I agree with you that smartphones are like little computers and in the future, their processing power will be enough to the mainstream, that is, anybody besides hard-core gamers (as opposed to casual, "facebook" gamers ) and professionals.
But what i meant is, it is normal that Intel is ahead when it comes to process nodes on the desktop, because new process nodes aren't at first optimized for low power platform (like smartphones/tablets) so the new process nodes always comes first to the desktop and then to the smartphones. So comparing Intel's 14nm with what smartphone makers have in store for next year is an unfair fight. What would be a fair competition, is comparing when Intel brings the 14nm Atom and when the other ARM manufacturers gets to there. I'll agree that Intel is still at an advantage, but not that much ahead, and judging by their last offerings, having better process nodes only offsets the disadvantages on x86 and their questionnable GPU's. It's a shame that they brought a smaller GPU than the competition despite that.
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Posted: 2013-11-12 19:43:12
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That won't be the flagship phone. I remember Randomuser talking about One Sony, is it still on under rumours? Also I've been reading about Z2.
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Posted: 2013-11-13 02:08:39
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'One Sony' is a business philosophy on product strategy rather than a single device.

Although, if push came to shove, the first device under the philosophy of 'One Sony' would be the Z1.

Going back to your original question, personally, if my Z broke down now I'd look at Z Ultra or wait until March when we should have a clearer picture of what's on the table for 2014.

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Posted: 2013-11-13 02:34:33
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quickly, and ironically (for me at least wrt our public conversation) in that article shows that intel is planning on dropping a 14nm atom next year.. similarly i expect the Ex6 to be at 14nm however who knows if samsung will be able to shoehorn it into an actual device.. instead of merely production samples.

as for reading about swift, i did.. the whole article actually (if anyone is interested: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review and its empirically different to the A9.. for the sake of esato (well this thread in particular) i will relent on the S800. (i still dont agree but we will put an end to this as its predominantly off topic)

i guess i am a fan of the newest/latest/greatest... i do hope that we can see a WQHD/Ex6(aka A53/57)/4GB/256GB device in 1H14 and my personal preference is that SONY be the one to drop that hammer... i doubt it.

referencing the Z1 and the quiet rumors of the Z2 i doubt that sony will implement or even have the desire to implement the latest and greatest HW.. i fear an incremental update the the Z1.. they (one sony) do not see the benefit of having the BEST in a singular device.

Audio - 24/192
Video - 4K recording .... shoot i would be thrilled for 120fps 1080p
Display - off angle coherency.. i wish they would begin to utilize JDI in a meaningful way (WQHD)
Storage - 16GB is from 1996.. a jump to 256 would be relevant for 1H14 but because of the other devices, i doubt they have incentive to do so.. again samsung has 128GB chips 2x would be $46 @ $23 per 128GB chip (to production costs..) but because the market only asks for 12GB (usable, theres no business incentive to up the storage, esp with the idea that SD cards can compliment internal storage) which is a joke, as the access speeds are wildly incomparable.

regardless of this one mans opinion, it was a good discussion, i am happy to share points of view anytime. thanks Karim, HxH, & even you XCute
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Posted: 2013-11-13 03:43:38
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