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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

Specifically, the Snapdragon 865 can handle up to two gigapixels of data per second, thanks in part to its dual 14-bit ISPs. This means that the Snapdragon 865 will be able to handle captures of up to 200 megapixels as well as dual megapixel camera shots with zero shutter delay and HEIC photo capture. It can also apply real-time multi-frame noise reduction, as well as provide real-time object sorting, segmentation, and replacement in images, thanks to its fifth-generation Qualcomm AI Engine. This new technology will 'quickly and intelligently identify different backgrounds, people and objects so that they can be individually treated for a truly personalized photo,' according to Qualcomm.

The Snapdragon 865 chipset is also a big boost for mobile video. In addition to 8K video capture, the chipset also supports 4K HDR (HDR10 +, HDR10, HLG and Dolby Vision), 120fps 4K video and 4K video capture, while simultaneously capturing a 640 megapixel five-shot sequence. This makes it the first chipset to capture Dobly Vision video in real time, and in addition to capturing video at 120fps, the chipset can also play video at 120fps in real time when combined with a 120Hz display, such as those found on Razer Phone, Razer Phone 2, Sharp Aquos R3 Smartphones and Asus ROG Phone II.

  Qualcomm also addressed high speed capture. Snapdragon 865 can capture 720p video at 960fps without limits. 720p video at 960fps is not new, as the Sony Xperia XZ and more than a dozen other smartphones from Sony, Samsung, Huawei, Sony and Xiaomi can attest, but today's devices are limited to capturing just a few seconds at a time. When paired with the proper hardware, the Snapdragon 865 chipset can record 960fps videos indefinitely; or at least until it runs out of storage.


All a phone needs are : sensor that can do 4K120 and 8K + heat management beyond excellent. But no sensor for cellphone can do 8K so far. Isocell 108MP does 6K according to Samsung.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-12-04 19:54 ]

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Posted: 2019-12-04 20:51:01
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profyler Posts: 105


On 2019-12-04 17:49:02, tai020381 wrote:

Lol you're exactly the fanboy we're refering to.

This is a site that still alows people to criticise a brand whatever it is. If its good its good and people talk about it, if its bad we're going to talk about it too. And there is no absurd on it since Several reviews already talk about Sony phones on several websites stating what is Sony doing, but you fanboys are always DXO, gsmarena, phonearena is biased mumbo jumbo nonsense conspiracy agains the poor Sony.

I still come here because im alowed to it, i like to see the news and rumours from a brand that i've been loyal almost for 15 years.
Jesus Christ, open your head, we all wish Sony get along with the top competition but being blind is just nonsense fanboy thinking.



OK fanboy.
[ This Message was edited by: profyler on 2019-12-04 20:59 ]

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Posted: 2019-12-04 21:56:51
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profyler Posts: 105


On 2019-12-04 18:57:34, Luca-S wrote:

On 2019-12-04 13:52:31, profyler wrote:

I replied to your comment wich has nothing to do with rumors



I replied to your behavior in the last comments.
How old are you? 15?



not really, newbie.
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Posted: 2019-12-04 22:00:33
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moogoo Posts: > 500

ok kids. take it to private messages or something and stop polluting the thread.

if you have legitimate criticisms you want to LEGITIMATELY discuss, feel free. but if you're here to just insult people who are fans of sony, then just save it. do you really have nothing else to do?

anyway - back to rumors..

has there been any other concrete information about the 2020 flagship to be announced at MWC?

I think the Xperia 1 is a great device but there are things they can improve on, which I won't go into length here. But if they can improve on the Xperia 1 and price the phone reasonably, I'd be on board to upgrade.

I'm looking for a phone I can use for some fun videography, so the cinemapro really interests me. if the 6 camera phone is legit and they are able to utilize the 6 different cameras to improve still images and provide extra flexibility and options for videos, that'd be perfect.

hope it's true and hope it's done right.
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Posted: 2019-12-04 22:23:21
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

I have no idea what they are up to.
But I would guess if X0 is real that it would have different FLs, not Nokia 9 combo.

I think many brands will bet at for example 0.6x + 1x + 2x + 5x + ToF.
2x for bokeh and 5x periscope to get more zoom score on dxo test.



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Posted: 2019-12-04 22:55:35
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moogoo Posts: > 500

right - but doesn't the multiple FLs allow them to get more data and produce a single image with higher quality and detail? That's what the LIGHT camera company does with their L16 device.. and if i recall correctly, sony is working with them, arent' they?


EDIT: https://www.engadget.com/2019[....]artnership-smartphone-cameras/
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2019-12-04 23:21 ]

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Posted: 2019-12-05 00:21:14
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RacSony Posts: > 500

Android 10 update started for xperia 5
https://androidnext.info/?p=817
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Posted: 2019-12-05 00:30:40
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

X1 too...

Light tech is what you see on Nokia 9.
If you try to merge from UWA, wide and tele (like lg v40) you get that "3D" effect like google street view.

Light tech tries to emulate a larger sensor by using smaller ones.
You can have for example 5 sensors of 1/2.3" and keep slim device like 8mm.
Something you cant with 1" or more.

In theory, nokia 9 should outperform 1".
Surface of light catching is 166mm2.
If we consider 1 mono = 3 rgb

It is also cheaper for sensor manufacturing because they waste less silicon by making smaller sensors.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-12-04 23:48 ]

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Posted: 2019-12-05 00:36:26
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Ppl Posts: > 500

https://light.co/camera

Light's own camera has 3 different FLs and claims to have variable zoom.

The phones with hybrid zoom should already be combining 2x and 1x data. iPhone's crop outside the frame also should be using all cameras for the composite image.

Most plausible rumor for the X1 successor is that it'll have 3+1 setup. 1 being tof and one of the cameras having a big sensor, most likely the 1/1.7" 12mp. This was outed by a noname from Reddit and Zackbuks. 6 camera phone is not a successor to the 1. If it's real it'll be higher tier.

I wonder if this 1/1.7" will also have variable aperture. It could maybe gather as much light as the 1/1.3" f/1.7 one with an f/1.2.
[ This Message was edited by: Ppl on 2019-12-05 07:34 ]

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Posted: 2019-12-05 08:31:57
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

Problem is ..... As you increase aperture, more of frame goes out of focus.
Easier to see when you use closer to subject.

I dont know how Light does it.
For example all phones with monochrome use same FL as wide.
How would you merge photos that have subject placed in different sposts?
RGB + mono already does crazy process because they are not equal, but binocular.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2019-12-05 09:08 ]

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Posted: 2019-12-05 10:05:01
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