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What am doing and planning on doing, is nothing. There isn't anything that's worth my money. Importing stuff into the UK is catastrophically expensive. Import duty tax ruins us.

Why should I be settling for anything that doesn't meet my demands. Samsung has phenomenal hardware - design is iffy but its no longer bad, but their software is terrible. I'd love an LG V10 if it didn't cost the earth and didn't have LG's ridiculous software. Nexus devices aren't worth the money IMO. No smartphone aside from Sony smartphones have good battery life, but they are thoroughly mediocre in other aspects.

iPhones are iPhones. They're good, but I don't want one - hate iTunes and how Apple are trying to eliminate google services despite them being objectively better.

Not a single phone that has just enough of what I need. The closest is the Note 5, but Samsung don't want my money so f**k 'em. The Z5/Z5 compact are close to just about good enough (I have an RX100 as a camera which I carry around most of the time so....), but they're expensive for what they are.

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Posted: 2015-11-08 15:43:02
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In regard to design, we talk here a lot about design but in a matter of fact, design is the last thing that needs improvement in z5 devices. Quite the opposite, z5 design IS the only thing that is unique despite the aging ob. A change in design could make it worthy to some and could be a good decision but the current design is not why z5 devices are not competitive and overpriced and a new design won't bring meaningful sales to sony. In other words, even if sony would make the coolest design ever for the z5 devices it will not make so much more people buy it or make it competitive and not overpriced. That is obvious because design is just one part of the puzzle.
@-XYZ
I see but unlike in the uk in my country samsung devices are always shipping fast after they announce them and note 5 is not different. I'm waiting for a new shipment of note 5 in 64gb to arrive to samsung stores. They are out of stock. I might wait for the end of the year for some price drop.
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Posted: 2015-11-08 16:10:06
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Saw the review of z5p over at the other topic, the design and finishes alone win me over everything else. Never seen any phone as classy as the chrome erosion, makes iPhone 6s+ looks like cheap toy. I lost interest in galaxy s line a long time ago, edge curve screen were meh. I used to think note a lot with the stylus and big screen, but while I use the note I barely ever use the stylus. And now that z5p screen is 5.5" that's basically no reason for me to get a note.
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Posted: 2015-11-09 06:16:36
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@Gitaroo
I agree that the only real selling point about z5p is the design. The bottom line that is discussed here is that sony's flagships are not competitive and overpriced with not real strive for perfection. Sony is just releasing new flags for the sake of survival and it is easy to see. 3gb ram suits a first half of 2014 flag not a front line so called "premium" second half of 2015 flag, camera is half baked and overall inferior - lets say no more, already mentioned above. Ips display as z5 has is becoming inferior with samsung latest amoleds of s6 and note 5 that display improved color tones and the grainy pentile matrix is not really noticeable anymore. No wonder that there is a rumor that iphone 7 will have amoled display. On top of that, qualcomm made s810 that heats frequently, throttle more and in certain tasks become very hot to the touch more then any other qualcomm processor and exynos and the heat pipes only help to a point. Z5 battery, ui smoothness and speediness are worse then z3. Add to that the terrible quality control of some imx300 units that produce blurry shots in the brand new z5 devices to sum up the "premium" package. God damn, at least they could have include a qfc 2.0 charger in the package but they even cut corners on that. If you are fine with all that and willing to pay a premium price then good for you as long as you are happy.

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Posted: 2015-11-09 09:48:15
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The 4K screen isn't a selling point for the Z5 Premium?

I just got mine today and it is a mightily impressive screen. I didn't realise that 1080p could be improved upon in real terms, but it really does make a difference. Only downfall is that 4K is only turned on in the proprietary media apps, 3rd party apps are left to the wilderness unless they specifically build for 4K compatibility.
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Posted: 2015-11-09 11:11:09
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I know people that have got their Note5 imported for around £470, but obviously thats the base model

Or you can go on Ebay and get one new from people who have bulked imported.



This annoyed me too.

Sony want you to pay a high price but cant include BASIC fast chargers?
When cheaper phones have included them in the box.

Sony have no direction and its clear they dont care for their customers.

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Posted: 2015-11-09 11:13:26
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Xperia Z5 Premium=THE BEST SMARTPHONE
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Posted: 2015-11-09 12:05:08
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@Ricky D
It is hard to call the so called "4k display" a selling point because it is inferior to 2k res display which is always on in all modes. Z5p display might have been better if they made the rest of the modes in a basic 2k res. There is no logic in increasing the res to 4k but dumbing the res down to fhd in almost all modes. We are in 2015 and now 2k is the basic res and battery life should not be an issue anymore with 2k display and z5 has a respectable 3430mah but NO, they used a "4k display" mostly to gain media buzz while in most cases the res is fhd which debuted 4 years ago? This is irritating. Lets keep it real.
@Jamzy
Sony is living in la la land.

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Posted: 2015-11-09 12:21:19
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So much negativity from people who don't have the device nor seen them. Note 5 has been out a while and the Z5P will come down to a similar level soon, they want to make the most of charging at that price at launch. Note 5 isn't available in the UK so its not even a competitor in my eyes. 4K screen justifies the price or do people expect it to come free in their cornflakes?

By scanning numerous reviews it seems like the camera on the Z5 is the best. It performs excellently in every other department too only losing out to Exynos in benchmarks. What more do people want? I think people want it to be top in every single category....and be cheap and have no bezels and have a 90 day battery whilst being 2mm thick and be carved from a single piece of adamantium with lava proofing.

You can definitely see the difference in pixel density between anything and the Z5P. OLED screens have better contrast but images on the Z5P are sensational. After an eyes on test, anyone who disagrees is a troll.
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Posted: 2015-11-09 13:36:43
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@amirprog

I've had my own Z5 Premium here in my hands for 10 hours. In that short space of time I can tell you that it is markedly better ANY other screen I have seen on a similar sized device. Even my wife (not anything close to a techie) said she feels like the objects in the photos 'are right in front of her face'.

Do I think 4K is a valid selling point? Yes I bloody do! And I think it outweighs other so called 'negatives' such as a slightly longer body (1mm longer than Note 5, same length as S6 edge+, seriously).

As for including fast chargers, fast charging in such a way actually shortens the usability of the battery. The battery lasts for more than a day even with heavy use and most people charge their handsets overnight anyway. What you're effectively asking Sony to do is shorten the life of their products for a minority who don't want to fork out a tenner for an emergency use charger. The included charger is a 1.8A charger by the way. No slouch under normal circumstances.
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Posted: 2015-11-09 14:16:03
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