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Alvin,
AFIAR, XZ1 won iF Gold Design award last time, all against the odd of having bezelless phones around them
Unfortunately, overall market not seem to feasible with it instead of non-sense flashly thing
Sony try their hardest with very limited resources and fund allocation available from the big pool
Above average 4G modem, 4K HDR Display, 4K Movies Recording, 960fps, 3D Creator, Haptic Feedback Motor
I don't know what to call if that not represent symbol of trying hard
it's just not hit the right-spot where generally market favor in me-too madness.
Me-too madness is not the way to survive...
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Posted: 2018-06-20 07:34:51
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All valid points in response to my rant. On the topic of cars, you need to look at the market and where Sony want to go in the future. Lets look at Toyota, the said they wanted to introduce hybrid cars and they did with the Prius which is ugly as hell but the success of this was incredible. Now everyone has adopted this but Toyota didn't just stick with the Prius, the prettier and more desirable cars are now hybrids like the very popular Yaris. The Prius is still killing it but now Toyota are comfortable in that sense. The other extreme is the Toyota/Lexus LFA. Lexus wanted to showcase their ability and made this legendary machine, it goes down in history as one of the greatest of its time but Lexus made a loss on each one that they sold. It was technology over design like the Prius but market-wise, the total opposite. It raised their profile, and even though its not as fast as the Lambos and Ferraris, its a very special machine with a one of a kind feel.
The question is where is Sony? Is the XZ2P the LFA? If so where is the Prius and Yaris to keep them ticking over? I'm no business man but Xperia could disappear because everyone else is moving forward at a very fast pace and Sony is limping behind. I'm a big car fanatic and when you look at the way good companies move ahead I feel Sony should be really try to catch up. I appreciate the R&D budget but if anyone gets the chance, take a close look at the back lights of a BMW 5 series or any Audi. Look and appreciate the effort and detail, see all the curves and reflections inside and out, even the writing in the BMW lights looks amazing.
The best way to sum up is that I currently have a BMW 3 series E90 model, I wanted to upgrade this summer to the latest F30 model but yesterday I saw the new Audi A1 which has made me stop. The A1 is the lowest end model but the interior is amazing and that has the full digital dials. For that reason alone, I'm going to wait for the new 3 series to come out because I'm confident that it will have a interior up to that standard. I also saw the new 8 series and it gives me hope that the new 3 series will look amazing.
I don't get that with Sony anymore, my XZ1 Compact looks ancient and I have little hope that the XZ3 Compact will be exciting. Considering that I've only used Sony for well over 10 years despite being given Galaxy phones and iPhones only to return them shows how much of a fan I am but also my patience with them. The XZ2 body should be no bigger than the S9, if that means a smaller screen then so be it. Premium should be no bigger than the S9+ and Compact cannot be twice as thick as the iPhone 8. Fingerprint reader and camera lens should be far apart and higher, they made last year's mistake that Samsung did with the S8, its not good enough to be so brainless. You cannot remove the 3.5mm jack and provide a shitty adaptor, provide a wireless headset or USB-C headphones to convince me that it was the right decision. They took the jack out and give you 3.5mm headphones in the box, how does that make sense? Let's not even mention the XZ2P release debacle considering the guy accidentally announced it at MWC in February. Bloody Sony, make me want you!
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Posted: 2018-06-20 09:43:07
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XperiaJunkie Posts: > 500
So when Sony agreed to let LDAC be part of the Android Oreo source code in return Google will give Sony advanced access to the next 3 major Android releases starting with Oreo back in 2017.
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Posted: 2018-06-20 10:24:29
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https://attach.mobile01.com/a[....]67fc9fdf1a39c70c887cf8d0e3.jpg
Look at the rear panel, XZ2 should be this. ( ignore dual cam)
What happen to this design? Wasnt one device going to be kinda like this concept?
Made by Adida's friend
https://attach.mobile01.com/a[....]fca6c07695d4e2ae3440f409a3.jpg[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-06-20 11:29 ]
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Posted: 2018-06-20 12:21:22
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where did you find the first pic?
maybe concept but looks realistic
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Posted: 2018-06-20 14:10:09
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Mobile01 ... Same place those XZ2P samples were posted days ago.
https://m.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=569&t=5492998
https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia[....]ept-high-quality-images-posted
I honestly prefer the design of Premium's dual cam.
P.S Ignore the video...
[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-06-20 15:09 ]
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Posted: 2018-06-20 15:24:42
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Nowaday people's photoshop skills are so good now...
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Posted: 2018-06-20 17:04:39
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They say it is just a concept, how they imagine IFA phone.
@spek Should we trust or ignore any gossip about 3 Flagships ( sided FPS) for IFA?
[ This Message was edited by: Moe87 on 2018-06-20 17:35 ]
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Posted: 2018-06-20 18:21:36
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On 2018-06-19 21:51:57, badassmam wrote:
Xperia owners are like Mitsubishi Evo drivers. We think we have the performance and looks until you see that BMW 330 or Audi S5 pull up beside you. You beat them both in a drag race but it's a hollow victory because your car looks like garbage next to them. The stubborn ones will get go faster stripes painted on while the others wait and pray for a nice design to come out.
Are people not concerned that everyone is pulling out fantastic looking phones overnight while we will have to wait 2 or 3 years to get past ambient flow. Then it's this dual camera. It'll be max 10 to 15% better than the XZ2 for daytime shots and max 20 to 25% for night shots. You're only seeing XZ2P compared to the XZ1 or XZ, no comparison to the XZ2 so far. I'd rather have single camera in a small and thin device rather than compromise all design to take night shots. I will excuse the XZ2 because its well proportioned but the Compact and Premium look like poo. I can guarantee that every manufacturer will have comparable camera phones within 6 months in much sleeker packages.
The one and only reason I have stuck with Sony is the Compact range. Everything I wrote is truth and Sony need to be harassed until they catch up and stop dicking about like cutting the headphone jack when there's enough space to add 4 of them in those fat bodies.
[ This Message was edited by: badassmam on 2018-06-19 20:56 ]
Preach!!!
When the xz2 was announced some users attacked me due to my opinion that the xz2 was ugly and fat.
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Posted: 2018-06-20 19:19:26
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Well compared to S9, P20, new Vivo and Oppo, XZ2 indeed looks like shit. They have to step up in terms of design big time!
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Posted: 2018-06-20 21:28:05
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