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On 2008-02-11 14:32:32, PeterKay wrote:
well spotted.
@PK
So it's the UIQ version of the X1?
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Posted: 2008-02-11 15:59:44
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Nice quote from SE on the X1, given in a Microsoft press conference today - as reported on
Modaco:
We truly believe we can bring value and excitement to the market, and looking at the WinMo devices, we thought we could do better! We have Symbian, we have our own platform, but I think now in our view we are getting into a new stage for Sony Ericsson. We would like to focus on great UX, and we feel we can build something on Windows Mobile.
Sounds like they're not just in it for one handset...
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Posted: 2008-02-11 15:59:58
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@FreshPrince: No, it's just that there are multiple prototypes out--one with a finished keyboard and one without.
The UIQ version will be announced Wed.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 16:00:47
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@Dogmann
agree 100% this is nothing but a rebranded htc with an SE home screen and some "SONY Branding" the screen and chipset is nice.. but going windows mobile just seems like a low to me...
not to mention the UIQ devices announced don't seem to be able to use the new chipsets... shame on SE...and again 1 year late lol..
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Posted: 2008-02-11 16:10:36
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As a total convert to WM, I think more than a few people here are going to be surprised when they overcome their initial bias and actually try one of these out.
UIQ to Windows Mobile involves a little learning curve, but that's all. Contrary to popular opinion, Windows Mobile is just as stable as UIQ if not more so, and many times more powerful in terms of the application support, customisation etc. It's unbeatable for business use, with perfect Exchange integration, and PC synchronisation that makes SE's efforts with UIQ look completely amateur.
The way some talk around here, you'd think UIQ was the holy grail of perfection in an OS, and WM was just an unworkable mess. In reality neither is true - the two UI's are really a lot closer than you'd think. WM could learn some tricks from UIQ/Symbian in terms of power saving, and longer battery life, but UIQ can't hold a candle to WM in many other areas, and it's difficult for me to see just how the UIQ interface is any more useable than WM, now that I've gotten used to both.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 16:41:04
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On 2008-02-11 16:10:36, DragonEye wrote:
@Dogmann
agree 100% this is nothing but a rebranded htc with an SE home screen and some "SONY Branding" the screen and chipset is nice.. but going windows mobile just seems like a low to me...
not to mention the UIQ devices announced don't seem to be able to use the new chipsets... shame on SE...and again 1 year late lol..
Wrong. I would NOT DARE make such a simple assumption or statement.
1) The CPU is a joint development between Ericsson & TI > this is like an insultive stab to HTC (since they left their Aug 2007 chip agreement with Ericsson and went to Qualcomm). Just to show HTC Ericsson has still got intellectual PULL if you will.
2) Remember, Touch UI is NOT just a homescreen that HTC made. There are other improvements to the WM6 Pro GUI that were done; address book finger scrolling, Pocket IE finger scrolling, and others that you don't find in other PPC PE devices like Palm Treo 750 or HTC's own TyTN I model. I highly doubt that this is just Ericsson's home screen either.
3) Optical finger navigation is VERY similar to what Samsung has on the i780 device and ONLY they have this!
There are still other improvements that I'm sure that
is NOT going to show us for others to simply have their coding teams "photocopy" or for the aspiring l33t coder to make it freeware.
Nokia S60 Touch STILL has a few things to surprise us so lets see what EVERYBODY has to offer this week.
PS unless memory or SSD becomes EXTREMELY CHEAP & smaller over the next few months and a 1yr target for competitors; then the X1 will definately hold its own as HTC will begin to move more and more in the TabletPC and UMPC space.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 16:44:51
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@Boinng
wm6 isn't that bad.. it's just ugly and i don't like how it does certain things... but you're right it does have a lot of upside...
but seeing that start bar makes me want to chuck it out the window lol
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Posted: 2008-02-11 16:45:15
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On 2008-02-11 15:59:44, FreshPrince wrote:
@PK
So it's the UIQ version of the X1?
No, it isn't.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 17:20:01
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According to this site, the X1 has the touch-auto focus the G-series does.
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/8971.html
Can anyone confirm?
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Posted: 2008-02-11 17:43:48
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FWIW, I just attended SE's virtual press conference for the North American market. Here's my summary (which will appear on Phonedog.com shortly), including a few things about X1 that you probably knew ... but maybe didn't:
MWC 2008: Live from Sony Ericsson's North American Press Conference
No doubt, it's been a big week already for Sony Ericsson. SE dropped a fistful of devices at their pre-MWC press gathering in Barcelona Sunday, including the do it all Xperia X1 smartphone. The folks from SE were kind enough to hold a virtual press conference just now (Monday morning California time) to address product plans and questions about the North American market. Here are the highlights:
- No, SE wouldn't give any pricing information on the X1 other than to say that it's a "high end" device and will be priced accordingly. Sony + "High End" usually = $$$$.
- Yes, lots of North American carriers are in a tizzy about the Xperia X1, but no, SE won't say anything about who might wind up carrying it in the US or Canada. And yes, the X1 might be sold as an unlocked device, but not really yes because SE leaves that kind of thing up to their distribution partners. So, no, there's no real news about carriers.
- Yes, SE worked with HTC on the Xperia X1, but they wouldn't disclose any details about the arrangement. It's been reported on the Web this week that HTC "built" the X1, while SE "built" the custom Xperia Panels software layer that sits atop the standard Windows Mobile interface.
- Yes, the X1 uses a version of Windows Mobile customized for finger input on a touchscreen. And yes, it uses Windows Media Player. No, it doesn't use SE's Walkman software.
- Yes, the X1 supports video conferencing.
- Yes, SE will be upping their presence in the North American market this year. While several devices announced in Barcelona this week don't support North American HSDPA bands, SE will be unveiling new "Walkman, Cyber-Shot, and other devices" with NA-friendly HSDPA in the latter part of 2008. SE's marketing folks also reminded us of the w760 Walkman phone and its triple-band HSDPA, which was unveiled at CES last month.
- No, the fact that the X1 is SE's first WIndows Mobile device does not spell - or imply - the end of SE handsets running Symbian's UIQ platform.
- Yes, the X1 has a standard 3.5mm audio jack.
- No, none of the other new SE devices have a standard 3.5mm audio jack. They all continue to use SE's proprietary Fastport connector.
And while SE answered the first two questions I typed into the chat room, they totally dodged my inquiry about possible further announcements coming from their camp this week. Rumor has it that two Symbian UIQ-running SE smartphones - the "Paris" (aka P5i) and "Beibei" (Walkman smartphone) may be unleashed in conjunction with a Symbian media event on Wednesday.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 17:45:20
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