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Indiandawg Posts: > 500


On 2013-11-13 02:34:33, Ricky D wrote:
'One Sony' is a business philosophy on product strategy rather than a single device.

Although, if push came to shove, the first device under the philosophy of 'One Sony' would be the Z1.

Going back to your original question, personally, if my Z broke down now I'd look at Z Ultra or wait until March when we should have a clearer picture of what's on the table for 2014.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2013-11-13 01:44 ]



I did thought about Z Ultra but I felt Z1 has better specs and also Z Ultra is big enough for me. March announcement means April-May release. Little long. Let's see where I land up.

Thank you everyone for the help
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Posted: 2013-11-13 04:52:40
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HxH Posts: > 500

@ninja

Thanks anyway, and I apologize if any harsh words slip out out my tongue.

For me, to describe true-octa is to use all 8 core online in same time, while Ex5 5420 is not it still 4x4 config even CCI fixed but not make a full use of it due to some problems as mention before.

I don't expect Hi-Fi audio and 4K for now, far off in reality perspective.
Audio files even best in business like iTunes still not offer that HQ, don't even think about 4K.

Only expect 32GB + MicroSD supported plus software know-how from Walkman and Alpha Nex team.
[ This Message was edited by: HxH on 2013-11-13 05:02 ]

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Posted: 2013-11-13 05:57:59
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Supa_Fly Posts: > 500


On 2013-11-11 16:51:16, karim128 wrote:


The ARM reference is the A15, Krait falls below this reference point because of what reason? they designed their own chip, based on what ARM had at the time, their goal was to get a family of SoCs to market ASAP for mind.market share, this 'rush' paid off as they are assumed to be the only/best player for mobile SoCs. Again your comparison i dont think particularly suits this discussion.. could just be me however.

Gosh, please don't repeat the same arguments when i've already said they were wrong. There is no reference, everybody is free to either use A15 or desing their own core, and Krait is not based on an early A15, it is a pure Qualcomm design, from scratch, the only thing it shares with A15 is the instruction set, in other words they can execute the same programs.


For someone with 11 posts you sure do come across as a bit arrogant. Perception goes a LONG way in reading your post ... specifically what I've chosen above as not to loose context.

A15 is a reference design that is LICENSED, including the instruction set ... so NO nobody is "FREE to use it as they choose, you must license it". Krait is no exception if it can run the same instruction set and Qualcomm has LONG been on Arm Holdings, Inc's tender in this VERY regard.

You are correct that A15 is not entirely nor the core of the Krait chip design ... Qualcomm chose to license what it wanted, required, or just outright saw what was fit.

Again perception is the KEY when reading the section of the post you've read above ... yet nothing can go against the facts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krait_(CPU)
Krait is an ARM-based central processing unit included in Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 and Snapdragon 400/600/800 (Krait 200, Krait 300 and Krait 400) System on chips. It was introduced in 2012 as a successor to the Scorpion CPU and has architectural similarities to ARM Cortex-A15.


^ So you're incorrect in stating " Krait is not based on an early A15, it is a pure Qualcomm design, from scratch .."


http://www.anandtech.com/show[....]-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture
Qualcomm has an ARM architecture license enabling it to build its own custom micro architectures that implement the ARM instruction set

^ However the next part of that sentence is ... " ... the only thing it shares with A15 is the instruction set, in other words they can execute the same programs."

You're mixing opinion with facts and this contrues your statement. You need to completely use the facts as such they are... not mix and match. It almost seems I'm doing so with splitting your sentence above yet there is no other way to clarify you're mixing a lot up.

BTW, Arrogance is never good for anyone and telling someone not to post just because "YOU" said their wrong shows that. There is no place for this on Esato, never was accepted 7yrs ago, should be now, not by you, myself nor ANYONE ELSE. I'm all for correcting someone or BEING corrected by anyone I'm man enough to admit and accept when I'm wrong, but being arrogant when you too are also wrong is hard for anyone to stomach.

peace.

However the next part of that sentence is ... " ... the only thing it shares with A15 is the instruction set, in other words they can execute the same programs."
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Posted: 2013-11-13 08:55:12
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mobisekim Posts: 32

Sony Xperia Z1S(D5503) for certification in Ukraine
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.ph[....]13845&view=findpost&p=26617284
[ This Message was edited by: mobisekim on 2013-11-13 10:24 ]

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Posted: 2013-11-13 11:17:05
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XperiaJunkie Posts: > 500

GSMarena reporting that a Amazon are selling cases for the Z1s which is due for release on the 26th of November
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_[....]vember_26_launch-news-7172.php
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Posted: 2013-11-13 11:28:12
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profyler Posts: 105

good news boys:

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/11/13/xperia-z1s-aka-z1-mini-pictures-leak-confirms-d5503-model-number/
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Posted: 2013-11-13 11:29:23
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mobisekim Posts: 32

В России и в Украине он выйдет через 3-3.5 месяца
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Posted: 2013-11-13 11:31:25
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aussiefella Posts: 24

Oh yeah thats what im talking about.
Gimme some z1s action!!!

If its released nov 26, does that mean it'll be announced earlier?
[ This Message was edited by: aussiefella on 2013-11-13 10:44 ]

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Posted: 2013-11-13 11:40:26
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XperiaJunkie Posts: > 500

If it is released on the 26th an annoucment should only be days away. We only have 13 days till the 26th it would be great if it was available in the next 2 weeks, although I cant see it happening everything that is possible to cross is crossed lol.
One reason I cant see it launching on the 26th is it will have 4.3 before the Z1 the current flagship and that is due to get it in December but on the other hand Sony will know that if it is launched with 4.2.2 people will automatically knock it down to have older firmware.
[ This Message was edited by: XperiaJunkie on 2013-11-13 10:51 ]

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Posted: 2013-11-13 11:47:27
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aussiefella Posts: 24

Xperia zr was released in june so a release for z1s in november makes sense (6 month cycle)

BTW the photos of the screen look really good. Great colours and viewing angles for dodgy shots.
[ This Message was edited by: aussiefella on 2013-11-13 11:00 ]

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Posted: 2013-11-13 11:58:10
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