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unfortunately, Sony mobile is run my dumb chimps that only think about Japan first then everything else second. Japan carriers ask for new devices every season.
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Posted: 2014-08-21 08:59:23
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On 2014-08-21 08:43:50, xperiazultra wrote:
I am shocked. Can't Sony people see this? I mean just look at the iPhone.ıf you focus your energy into a single product then its a massive hit whether it deserves it or not. Less number of phones means more attention to the products. But seriously discontinuing ultra line? Why release Z2 if you could have made Z3? What has changed in 6 months? Big tech leap? I am starting to think Stephen Elop got a job at Sony mobile division or something.
I disagree,
Sony is not Apple, and Apple is not Sony, not to mention that iOS is not Android and vise-versa.
what helped Apple is the huge loyal fan base they have they just overwhelming every thing with that bitten apple logo on it, was good or not... they're marketing Apple products for free !!
Sony doesn't have this fan base, so the focus should be go for what customers want, Apple is doing what they want mainly... just now they started to listen a little bit duo to massive pressure from apple fans ( we want larger screens ) but still Apple controlling their customers/fans they knew that the customers will adapt with what ever Apple duo ( take the iOS 7 UI change as example )
In our world, if a customer wants a big screen he will move to another company, if he wants faster updates he will move to another company, if he want vanilla android he will move to another company ( Nexus ), yes even Nexus has it's own fan base...
Sony will not go to the Vanilla Android route, but they can go the other parts, they just need to focus on fewer number of products and give them more love.. and get rid of this 2 flagships per year policy. If they want sales in both H1 and H2 then they should launch main flagship in H1 and a larger on in H2.. they can also launch the compact in mid year...
They knew that midrange phones they have doesn't have that much sales duo to strong competitors so they need to just suspend these to think more about them or just lower the price now as every body else bring more for the same amount of money...
low ends are two edge's knifes... they have a low margin, but they mean higher market share in the same time...
I feel what Felipe said is good example of what Sony should do.. the main stuff they should now is to stop this two flagship policy ASAP... and give the compact and Ultra more love and dedicated time frame for each... the Ultra should be smaller ( like 5.7-5.8 with narrow screen margins ) lets face it, the main competitor is the Note series... now Sony have a compact tablet so having more than 6" phone is not a good idea !!
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Posted: 2014-08-21 10:08:13
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I agree to most of the points you made. But fanbase is something you develop by good marketing and PR. Sony has all the goodies for it. I mean even our elders know Sony makes the most qualified products. They need to shine that. Make 3 categories Like felipe wrote (but I would name them X Y and Z more catchy
) I disagree about the 5.8 inch Ultra line. Even the G3 is 5.5 now. 6-6.2 will be more like it. If you put the killer camera and improve on the whatever you like input method (stylus) there you go sony. I even think about putting 4 little round speakers to the top and bottom bezels (2 each) so that with the slim profile you have a little 4K bravia tv and you can stop people complaining about the bezels. Another topic is that this year will be the battle of health apps. So heart rate sensors and bla bla bla should be included so that Sony won't fall short. Moreover I read somewhere that an Israeli firm made a very fast charging possible for a galaxy s4 (15 mins). Buy the firm put it in the Z series and you dominate. When it comes to sony they have a very wide range. Very good imaging department, very good audio department, very good display unit, very good console department. They need to level the software also ( i really like the xperia launcher by the way).
There's a saying in my country,
Have you got flour?
Have you got sugar?
Have you got butter?
Why are you holding back? Make the goddamn cake.
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Posted: 2014-08-21 12:18:23
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I too disagree.
Sony could pool all of its R&D and marketing budget into creating 'one phone to rule them all' but that STILL doesn't guarantee them a surefire hit. And if that phone were to fail? What then?
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Posted: 2014-08-21 12:23:45
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I am not saying that Sony should release only one phone.
Z series high end ; flagship, compact and ultra
Y series mid range; ultra, normal sized and rugged version maybe (dual sim all)
X series low end; big screen, normal sized, and audio centric (dual sim again)
And the accessories like selfie camera add ons for Y and X series maybe.
Just go for hail mary in the Z series. With a good marketing strategy of course they will succeed.
Xperia X, Y, Z sounds nice.
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Posted: 2014-08-21 12:58:12
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On 2014-08-21 12:18:23, xperiazultra wrote:
I disagree about the 5.8 inch Ultra line. Even the G3 is 5.5 now. 6-6.2 will be more like it. If you put the killer camera and improve on the whatever you like input method (stylus) there you go sony.
The problem with larger than 6" is that most peoples are considering this as too large for a phone, they sure want a larger phone but not that large, and it will be closer to the Z3 compact size also ( 8" )...
Personnaly I feel that 5-5.3" are the good size for a high-end flagship... and 5.7-5.9" are good size for a larger flagship, maximum is 6" but with slim side bezels ( as most peoples will work in landscape mode I think ) bottom and top bezels can be larger to hold the front facing stereo speakers and to have a grip for the phone also. a phone this size will depend on two hands for most of time so a grip is very important... but over sizing the bezels will just kill the phone as peoples will start looking into 7~8" tablets by that size
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Posted: 2014-08-21 14:10:33
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http://www.gsmarena.com/tenaa[....]_xperia_z3_specs-news-9417.php
Surely there must be some unique new feature over the Z2 to warrant an upgrade?
[ This Message was edited by: Tizzo on 2014-08-21 14:10 ]
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Posted: 2014-08-21 15:01:09
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Well I have been using Z ultra for a while now. And I agree that this phone is gigantic. But 6 inch could be the sweet spot. Think about a 5 inch phone and a 6 inch phone how they really differ. There is the same difference between 6 inch phone and a 7 inch tablet. I think lumia 1520 has the maximum usable screen size. So I would vote for 6 inches and top bottom bezels must stay for front speakers and a place to hold. Thickness should be kept at most 7 mm so you don't have a big brick. I think these specs we discuss are not impossible to make. iPhone did it back then and they are still gathering the bonuses. 5.3 inch flagship and a 4.5 compact is great. Hope someone from Sony reads these comments. Thanks guys.
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Posted: 2014-08-21 15:01:45
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I too would vote for 6 inches- i had Note 3 which is 5.7 and I have Lumia 1520 which is 6 inches - and i wouldn't go any larger than that. 6.44 on Ultra is good however it is too difficult to handle it/carry it around- it is more like a small tablet to me
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Posted: 2014-08-21 15:20:11
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I'm sure Z3C won't beat Alpha. Better HW doesn't mean better automatic...
Alpha has a nice display, good camera, better than expected battery, powerful cpu, all in a slim compact metal body. That's what I want from Sony!
Check GSMarena Review:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_alpha-review-1118.php
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Posted: 2014-08-21 15:33:30
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