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carkitter Posts: > 500


On 2018-12-08 17:14:18, badassmam wrote:
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Just for some perspective, the S10 Lite should be a 5.8 inch AMOLED with minimal bezels so those who are good at maths will see that the overall size is similar to the XZ2 Compact. According to the link above, this will have dual cam and massive screen and headphone jack and look thin. Probably have super slow motion as well. Why is it so hard for Sony? How comes every company in the world can do it but these stubborn Sony designers? Either the change up this year or they'll be gone because everyone has left them behind.

Who walks into a phone retailer and say "Show me a phone with super slowmo"?
Furthermore which staff member knows the answer? Nigel the Nerd can't get a job in retail anymore, he's working from home as an IT consultant. His job is filled by Devon and Mikaila the social media gurus.

Phones based on hardware spec haven't sold well since the software focused iPhone arrived and changed everything. in 2007. SONY need to pick a niche and own it completely
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Posted: 2018-12-09 01:35:36
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badassmam Posts: > 500

I disagree, Apple hardware is exceptional for the software which is why the humble iPhone SE is still blazing fast and smooth. The iPhone and total Apple package is excellent, people know what they are getting when you buy an iPhone.

On the other hand you go looking for an Android phone and you have a selection of large screen small bezel phones, different shapes and sizes, multiple camera sensors etc. Why would you get a single camera XZ3 over a Samsung or Huawei that have more of everything over the Sony? Even if you know nothing about the hardware and specs who would buy a Sony apart from a die hard fan? There is no appeal and the only unique devices which are the Premium and Compact look like diarrhoea or have some other uniquely stupid feature.
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Posted: 2018-12-09 15:36:27
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pt020 Posts: > 500

I like the XZ4C ..I even like its bezels.
On my XZ3 there are no side bezels and it disturbs more than it helps.
Nice also to see the side sensor again,it is really stupid placed on the XZ3.
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Posted: 2018-12-09 16:41:12
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motvikt Posts: > 500

Is it not obvious what Sony is doing. They are not investing any money in their mobile business and trying to charge as much as they can for every phone the sell.

- Create a new design? Costs money
- Make a great camera with good software? Cost a lot of money
- Make a phone with top of the line specs? Costs money and affects marginal

A real recipe for success

My guess is that Sony will continue to starve their mobile business until they close it down. What they should do is just licence their brand name to a Chinese OEM like Nokia is doing with Foxconn.

I will never buy a Sony phone again and I am saying that as a fan for 10+ years. Too expensive, old design, bad camera and the feeling that Sony is milking me for money.
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Posted: 2018-12-09 18:43:29
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vivftp Posts: > 500


On 2018-12-09 18:43:29, motvikt wrote:
I will never buy a Sony phone again and I am saying that as a fan for 10+ years. Too expensive, old design, bad camera and the feeling that Sony is milking me for money.


Old design? The XZ3 is a great design! And their cameras are perfectly competitive against their peers. As for your feelings, well that's your own opinion. I'm perfectly happy with my XZ Premium and am excited to see what they've got coming up.
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Posted: 2018-12-09 18:57:52
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xpr Posts: 329


On 2018-12-09 18:57:52, vivftp wrote:

On 2018-12-09 18:43:29, motvikt wrote:
I will never buy a Sony phone again and I am saying that as a fan for 10+ years. Too expensive, old design, bad camera and the feeling that Sony is milking me for money.


Old design? The XZ3 is a great design! And their cameras are perfectly competitive against their peers. As for your feelings, well that's your own opinion. I'm perfectly happy with my XZ Premium and am excited to see what they've got coming up.

Totally agree with you. No one is forcing anyone to buy a Sony phone. I personally think they make the best devices out there. If someone wants a Samsung with a Sony logo, just get the Samsung.
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Posted: 2018-12-09 22:52:13
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moogoo Posts: > 500

i love sony phones. i hope they continue to make them for a long time.

just a fun story. my best friend has been a samsung user since forever. well, her samsung broke on her and she knew i have always loved my sony phones and how i always say how the battery lasts forever. so, since she needed a new phone, she decided to get a sony.

She picked up an xperia xz, and put a basic TPU case on it. no screen protector. well, one day she was out and her phone dropped out of her pocket without her realizing, into the middle of a parking lot. by the time she realized it, it had clearly been run over by at least one car, maybe more. The front glass was shattered to bits and the LCD was not able to render an image. HOWEVER, the phone still worked. She was able to make/receive calls when paired to her car's bluetooth, access her contacts, etc. She just couldn't actually see or do anything that required the screen. Other than that, the phone was largely undamaged. Some scuffs on the metal frame but the back glass was intact without a scratch or crack and nothing on the camera lens, which still worked by the way.

I am confident an iphone or galaxy would have been obliterated if put in the same situation.

While I have the phone to repair the screen, she went and got a pixel 3. She's the type who doesn't charge her phone every night at the beside or even while in the car. Her biggest complaint is that she has to charge it after 2 days when she was able to easily go 4 days with her sony. She said she misses it.

Sony makes quality devices. yes, they screw up and yes they are behind the times in a lot of aspects. But, their software optimization is the best of all the OEMs, I think and build quality is clearly very good. For me, it'll be another sony or pixel when I do upgrade, but I really hope it will be a sony.
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Posted: 2018-12-10 00:02:36
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Lonewolf223 Posts: 361

The best thing about sony is its software and ui experience.

I agree with mogoo.

They just have to get a few things sorted out thats all.
I hope sony continue making phones for a long time
I cant imagine having a flagship from any other company bar sony
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Posted: 2018-12-10 04:53:57
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goldenface Posts: > 500


On 2018-11-29 21:20:30, moogoo wrote:
goldenface - it quickly disappeared like liverpool's chances of advancing in the champions league..



Ha ha. You were saying. 😂
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Posted: 2018-12-11 22:06:47
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badassmam Posts: > 500

Let's be honest, Italian teams are the greatest chokers in football and even Inter Milan somehow out-choked Spurs. Juventus are going to put it right this time with Ronaldo, I've been waiting a long time for the Champions League. I give credit to English clubs because they play with more heart than anyone else which gets them through against technically superior opponents.
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Posted: 2018-12-11 23:29:22
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