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@S4k1s, We all know who is making the device and who is paying for the honor to have their logo placed thereon. I further believe SE's R&D has been disbanded. Whith HTC taking care of the top end and Sagem of the bottom,who needs R&D

And yes,the device will be more expensive because the profits (if any) will have to be shared by 3 companies

Microsoft for the OS, HTC for making it and SE for the branding.
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Posted: 2008-10-11 05:07:32
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bit of a pointless argument mario - 90% of non-HTC branded WM devices are developed this way. Any non HTC WM device manufacturer has to pay MS and HTC. But of course you always find a way to represent SE business practices as somehow faulty when most of the others work in exactly the same manner.
What you don't seem to get is that individual manufacturers put there own mark on the HTC platform, this is what differentiates HTC devices from eachother.
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Posted: 2008-10-11 05:41:54
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On 2008-10-11 05:41:54, max_wedge wrote:
bit of a pointless argument mario - 90% of non-HTC branded WM devices are developed this way. Any non HTC WM device manufacturer has to pay MS and HTC. But of course you always find a way to represent SE business practices as somehow faulty when most of the others work in exactly the same manner.
What you don't seem to get is that individual manufacturers put there own mark on the HTC platform, this is what differentiates HTC devices from eachother.
To piggyback what Max is saying, almost any form of manufacturing/business is done in this manner--partnerships.
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Posted: 2008-10-11 06:05:00
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On 2008-10-11 03:50:20, max_wedge wrote:
On 2008-10-10 22:57:53, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-10-10 22:44:49, iva_se wrote:
when will be MID-END XPERIA?
Xperia is SE's high-end brand. So my guess is never.
Xperia is not SE's high end brand. They have stated before they plan to roll out xperia to different martet segments not just high end.
Do you have sources for that? I'm pretty sure they stated that all Xperia's will be high-end "premium" devices regardless of their OS.
max wedge wrote:
The poster asked about an xperia mid end device, ie a mid end device with an xperia UI.
Is there such a thing as an Xperia UI?
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Posted: 2008-10-11 06:09:38
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Lets stop fighting amongst ourself and get together and fight with SE to give teh X1 soon and at a cheaper cost!
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Posted: 2008-10-11 06:15:35
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Well molecule,
we'll have to fight about that, because I don't want a half-assed rush job. Nor do I want a cheezy-built device. I like X1 the way it is
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Posted: 2008-10-11 06:24:19
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@whybe Not so much a UI (poor choice of words) as an "experience", but no doubt the panels is one of the key aspects of that exerience.
I can't find the reference that Xperia is destined for the mid-end, but neither that it isn't.
According to the patent office, Xperia was referred to as ‘cellular or mobile phones featuring the capacity to function in any number of extra ways beyond just as a phone’"
This could apply to mid range devices as well as high end. For example a G900 like handset, a mid-range device, with panels? Not such an unlikely proposition.
Maybe Xperia will be limited to high end but I doubt it personally.
Also, if X1 is a flop, we may not even see another Xperia handset
So I gues we have to wait and see.
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Posted: 2008-10-11 07:15:02
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On 2008-10-11 07:15:02, max_wedge wrote:
According to the patent office, Xperia was referred to as ‘cellular or mobile phones featuring the capacity to function in any number of extra ways beyond just as a phone’"
Smartphone.
Also, if X1 is a flop, we may not even see another Xperia handset

I seriously doubt if it flops.
Supposedly the next Xperia will be Symbian based. But, I'm sure anything branded Xperia will be considered high-end. The next P-series device could be an Xperia.
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Posted: 2008-10-11 07:33:23
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On 2008-10-11 07:33:23, WhyBe wrote:
Smartphone.
not necessarily. 1. the G900 is a smartphone but not high end. (look at the pricing) 2. A mid range feature phone could fullfil the patent specification.
I seriously doubt if it flops.
I agree, I was just saying "if", but I agree it's quite unlikely.
Supposedly the next Xperia will be Symbian based. But, I'm sure anything branded Xperia will be considered high-end. The next P-series device could be an Xperia.
Maybe, but I wouldn't be surprised that if the Xperia line takes off then there will be a range of mid to high end and maybe even a low end. Look at other branding efforts - aka cybershot, walkman. Both started off as a high end feature phone and eventually worked their way down the models.
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Posted: 2008-10-11 07:48:36
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Matttil, you should experience that on your own, i am not 100% sure about it, but about 80%.
Anyways,
Xperia could get into "mid-high" segment rather than mid. Whats the purpose of G series then?
X was stated by sonyericsson that it would be there to fulfill the needs of high demanding users(read it somewhere), and i think its because of that, that they started X series with a windows mobile(one of the most sophisticated os out there).
Oh, if you guys did watch the ep 9 of johnny X, i think the to be continued stuff would be continued for X2?
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Posted: 2008-10-11 11:08:50
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