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On 2015-01-19 14:55:45, blank3609 wrote:
http://www.itmedia.co.jp/mobile/articles/1501/14/news056.html
It's interview with Z3's camera engineer.
He said sony is considering OIS but they think faster lens is better than OIS.(may be problem of thickness)
You know... Fast Lens->short shutter speed->less shake.
they should ask him right in his face why the z3 camera still a flop and see what he is going to say. Although I consider it pretty decent but 20mp vs all the others it should blows them away.
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Posted: 2015-01-19 20:30:14
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i'm curious how other flagships using sonys 20mp module like htc one, lg g4 and maybe s6 will perform against z4.
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Posted: 2015-01-19 20:42:51
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On 2015-01-19 20:42:51, JohnnyNr.5 wrote:
i'm curious how other flagships using sonys 20mp module like htc one, lg g4 and maybe s6 will perform against z4.
They will perform better, you don't have to be curious. I lost faith in Sony with this sensor and if Z4 will have the same one like Z3, picture quality gonna be the same as on the Z3 obviously, hope IMX230 can perform better, in Z5.
Also Sony has a lot of problems with their flash light while taking night photos, where the objects are further from the camera. All Z1/Z2/Z3 having this problem. Just try to make a photo in the night club for example, it's shame how it performs, almost useless, no contrast, light bleed, blur, while like i said few posts above, my friend's old Galaxy S3 Mini takes photos that are miles better then my Z1 in that conditions.
Why they can't put a dual tone flash? Is it that hard? They can make a lot better product with not that much more cost, really.
Sony fix that shit!
[ This Message was edited by: nikola1970 on 2015-01-19 20:54 ]
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Posted: 2015-01-19 21:36:18
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do we even know if Z4 will be using the same camera module? And unless S3 mini get some amazing camera sensors and everything else is a pos, no way it takes better picture than Z1. I know people are not happy how the Z camera turns out, saying something like that is just silly unless you are jumping or doing back flips when you take picture with your z. I have a s3 and note 2, none of them are even close to Z1.
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Posted: 2015-01-19 22:31:04
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On 2015-01-19 22:31:04, Gitaroo wrote:
do we even know if Z4 will be using the same camera module? And unless S3 mini get some amazing camera sensors and everything else is a pos, no way it takes better picture than Z1. I know people are not happy how the Z camera turns out, saying something like that is just silly unless you are jumping or doing back flips when you take picture with your z. I have a s3 and note 2, none of them are even close to Z1.
In day time yes, but try a night shots with flash and post the results here so we can judge, Z1/Z2/Z3 are trash while taking pictures with flash at night. I have Z1 myself, and i just saw it's exactly the same with my friends Z3 and i got mad!
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Posted: 2015-01-19 22:59:51
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On 2015-01-19 22:59:51, nikola1970 wrote:
On 2015-01-19 22:31:04, Gitaroo wrote:
do we even know if Z4 will be using the same camera module? And unless S3 mini get some amazing camera sensors and everything else is a pos, no way it takes better picture than Z1. I know people are not happy how the Z camera turns out, saying something like that is just silly unless you are jumping or doing back flips when you take picture with your z. I have a s3 and note 2, none of them are even close to Z1.
In day time yes, but try a night shots with flash and post the results here so we can judge, Z1/Z2/Z3 are trash while taking pictures with flash at night. I have Z1 myself, and i just saw it's exactly the same with my friends Z3 and i got mad!
Because every smart ass out there knows you don't take night scenes with flash!
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Posted: 2015-01-20 00:10:55
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I tried to take some house with crazy xmas lights at night once with my s3 and note, all I see in the pic is a bunch of blurb with out without LED flash in any iso setting. No way, even the crap auto mode my z1 is going a better job without LED flash. I rarely even use flash of my Z1, only when its pitch black with absolutely 0 light, I normally just rely on the street or ambient light but increase the iso. With note 2, there has to be flash in order to even see any thing.
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Posted: 2015-01-20 00:14:38
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On 2015-01-20 00:10:55, unknownC151A wrote:
On 2015-01-19 22:59:51, nikola1970 wrote:
On 2015-01-19 22:31:04, Gitaroo wrote:
do we even know if Z4 will be using the same camera module? And unless S3 mini get some amazing camera sensors and everything else is a pos, no way it takes better picture than Z1. I know people are not happy how the Z camera turns out, saying something like that is just silly unless you are jumping or doing back flips when you take picture with your z. I have a s3 and note 2, none of them are even close to Z1.
In day time yes, but try a night shots with flash and post the results here so we can judge, Z1/Z2/Z3 are trash while taking pictures with flash at night. I have Z1 myself, and i just saw it's exactly the same with my friends Z3 and i got mad!
Because every smart ass out there knows you don't take night scenes with flash!
try taking photos of people without flash in the dark... z1,z2 and z3 are terrible in this situations, light bleed and everything is somehow whitish when using flash, Sony need to sort this shit out...
[ This Message was edited by: Vipera ammodytes on 2015-01-19 23:27 ]
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Posted: 2015-01-20 00:25:58
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I use my phone's flash more as a flashlight (on daily usage) rather than as a light source when taking pictures haha
Thus, I think something like the later iPhone's (and I think HTC too?) Dual Tone Flash.
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Posted: 2015-01-20 05:42:25
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On 2015-01-19 15:08:16, nikola1970 wrote:
This guy should be fired.
I just hate how Z1/Z2/Z3 are making awful pictures in for example night clubs, where is pretty dark, pictures are terrible, contrast is terrible, flash light bleeding everywhere, blur everywhere. I don't know what's wrong with that. For example friend's Samsung Galaxy S3 mini making perfect photos in these conditions that i feel ashamed to compare the one i made in the same night club for example. Even if i lower ISO to 200-400, differences are so big compared my and his phone, dont even mention Superior Auto trash.
[ This Message was edited by: nikola1970 on 2015-01-19 14:56 ]
Can you prove it? Cause I don't believe that a galaxy s3 mini could possibly beat a Z1 in low light photography.
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Posted: 2015-01-20 10:11:52
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