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looks interesting thanks..............ha!!k850's for nz$480!!!!amazing isn't it!!still $800 in nz!!
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Posted: 2008-05-25 13:32:42
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Vodafone have announced they'll be SIM locking phones from May 1st and that unlocking will cost $50. Telecom have announced they will NOT be locking phones and there's some SPECULATION they may offer a $50 credit to get people to bring across thier locked phones. Telecom's GSM network is apparently taking longer than expected to get going so coverage in November could give new meaning to the word 'sparse' if you want more than GPRS... I also read that Telecom were front-runners for an exclusive NZ deal for the iPhone until Apple decided to drop the 'one network per country' policy meaning that until they get thier HSDPA act together (perhaps next year) they won't be able to release thier version of the iPhone.

As far as pricing goes... in the mall this morning, I went past a Vodafone Kiosk that had the W910i selling at $799 and the K850i at $999 while the Vodafone Shop just 50m further up had both for the new $200 lower prices. Just dumb, but I'm sure some schmuck will pay it. No sign of the W910i disappearing from stores near me...

I can't see there being a pricing war for non-contract phones unfortunately as I've recently come to find that SE phones here and in OZ are not supplied by SE but by a third party who buys in bulk. With VodafoneNZ being able to piggy-back of the Vodafone World-wide brand and loading unique firmware on arrival, it can get a better deal than Telecom NZ who have no associations to leverage off. Expect to see cheap/free phones if you sign up to a contract though!

What I hope will happen is that we may see SE phone stores pop up selling branded and non-branded phones as they do overseas. It would depend on whether Official Apple Resellers who are not Vodafone affiliated like Magnum Mac get to sell un-branded iPhones... it could be a significant precedent if they do. Here's hoping!
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Posted: 2008-05-26 04:02:02
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Well thats pretty much settled then. I probably won't buy a new phone from Vodafone or Telecom again. I think I'm going to just buy imported phones from now on. It sounds like this new Telecom GSM network isn't going to help so much as make it worse in many cases. I will still hope for dedicated SE stores, but NZ is so small...

To be honest I don't think Vodafone is really going to be able to brand their iPhones. Apple won't allow them to. They can lock as much as they like, but not brand! At this stage Apple is the only company that can draw me away from SE, and that depends on how good the next gen iPhone is!
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Posted: 2008-05-26 04:40:45
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I just noticed our little New Zealanders thread is coming up to its 500th post.
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Posted: 2008-05-26 05:18:57
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Not only the prices but the indignity of waiting up to 6 months behind European release and not getting FANTASTIC models like K810, T650, W580, W890, etc.

The Mobile phone market is the fastest moving in the world. We all know that a phone in the market for 6-9 months is old and a 2yr model is ancient. Even Motorola went from boom to bust (nearly) in only 2yrs. We want our phones now! ** slams the table**

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Posted: 2008-05-26 05:23:41
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Damn right! I can't believe they still list the K800i as a current phone! And the future isn't so great looking either. We aren't going to see several phones that have been announced recently. I'm not saying they should release every single one here... That would be ridiculous. I'm saying release some good ones! Out of all the phones coming 'soon', only the W980, X1 and C902 are truly interesting. The C702 is a rehashed K800i/K770i, the G502 and Z780i while good looking are technically V640is in new clothing. And then the T303 and W350i are pretty plain and featureless.

I'd like to see the W890i, W960i (what happened to that!), W580i, T650i, and most of all for me, the G900. And not in a years time either! I want to see good phones out here when they are released in Europe!


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Posted: 2008-05-26 05:38:29
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Oh and BTW, various phones are now available from parallel importers now. Most notably the Z770i available at Expert Infotech for $421.50 and at Etown for $500.
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Posted: 2008-05-26 05:53:30
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Ouch! Harsh...

C702 - A better looking K800i/K770i with A200 would be a delicious prospect IMO.
The nice looking G502 and Z780 internet phones will fall flat on thier faces unless Vodafone makes Data cheaper and more accessable as could happen when the iPhone comes out - here's hoping. Neither has a very big screen for Web browsing but competitive pricing along the lines of the V640i would make up for that and attract iPhone wannabe owners on a budget.
Dunno how the T303 fits in... but I love the Ericsson-esque W350 phone with flip, maybe a W200 replacement?

Edit: BTW, I picked up K770i, W910i, and K850i brochures from the mall this morning - complete with sonyericsson dot com dot au address on the back. I can't believe they're marketing the hideous K770i as a stylish phone for party girls, when they could've had a truly stylish phone - the T650 instead.

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[ This Message was edited by: carkitter on 2008-05-26 05:13 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-26 06:00:38
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Yeah alright I'll admit I was a bit harsh on the C702. But I'm going to let my comments on the rest of the range stand. I just don't see them being well accepted here, and I don't think they bring anything new to the market really. You're right about data, Vodafone needs a serious rethink about their pricing to get the data-centric phones to sell.

I think the T650i would have sold like hot-cakes here. Its such a great looking phone, and elsewhere it was really cheap, so should have been cheap here too. I have NEVER seen a K770i outside a shop!
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Posted: 2008-05-26 06:53:00
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a few people at uni have the K770. But yes, the T650 would be popular indeed.
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Posted: 2008-05-26 07:29:44
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