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max_wedge Posts: > 500


On 2008-10-11 22:38:01, Nisse Järnet wrote:
I have to click on the small digital clock at the top of the screen to see the battery indicator, how do i get it to stay next to the little clock? Do i have to remove the clock to "make room" for the battery indicator?

Edit: I tested and that worked, but i want to have the clock AND the battery indicator up there at the same time, is this possible?

[ This Message was edited by: Nisse Järnet on 2008-10-11 21:51 ]

I'm pretyy sure there is a registry hack for that - google it.
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Posted: 2008-10-12 02:46:31
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max_wedge Posts: > 500


On 2008-10-12 00:14:17, Rodin69 wrote:
One reeeeally annoying thing though, is something called STK-service that keeps poping up all the time. I have found out that it means "SIM Tool Kit"-service, but not exactly what it does.

google it and you should find a fix. The sim toolkit is a menu that is installed by the sim card and is operator specific. I'm pretty sure there is a way to turn it off, not sure how though.


Over all I think the state of the phone is a little better than the P990 was after a year of updates. Hmmm... Maybe a lot better.

Sounds promising.


One thing they need to fix though, is the bluetooth communication. It doesn't work perfectly on my phone.


what problems have you had?
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Posted: 2008-10-12 02:50:56
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nelshh Posts: 150


On 2008-10-12 00:14:17, Rodin69 wrote:

One reeeeally annoying thing though, is something called STK-service that keeps poping up all the time. I have found out that it means "SIM Tool Kit"-service, but not exactly what it does.



You have a old Vodafone/Telenor SIM-card. Call them to get a new one to solve the issue!
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Posted: 2008-10-12 03:08:03
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mode Posts: > 500


On 2008-10-12 02:40:01, Indrawan wrote:
hi guys i have a news..yesterday i went to retail store, they said dont buy X1 which has 256MB RAM because that is Commercial prototype not retail version and SE gave that commercial version just to demo..then i saw the IMEI and ROM date iam suprised these was the same with yours it means your x1 is still prototype. they said final product will be sold in monday (13oct) and there is no final product before the date...

the final version will have 384MB RAM with new ROM version

i hope it is true


That actually makes sense. I'm sure SE would allow current owners of the 256mb version to replace it with the 384mb one should they be unsatisfied, SE probably wanted to catch the 30th Sept deadline but at the same time wanted to give us something extra. That's great news for those meaning to upgrade once WM7 is released, but aside from that, the extra RAM is welcome but wouldn't be a necessity. I'd say SE has outdone themselves if they did in fact give us the extra RAM and a good sign of things to come since it's uncharacteristic of the current SE trend for them to be doing that

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Posted: 2008-10-12 03:21:53
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razec Posts: > 500


On 2008-10-12 03:21:53, mode wrote:

On 2008-10-12 02:40:01, Indrawan wrote:
hi guys i have a news..yesterday i went to retail store, they said dont buy X1 which has 256MB RAM because that is Commercial prototype not retail version and SE gave that commercial version just to demo..then i saw the IMEI and ROM date iam suprised these was the same with yours it means your x1 is still prototype. they said final product will be sold in monday (13oct) and there is no final product before the date...

the final version will have 384MB RAM with new ROM version

i hope it is true


That's great news for those meaning to upgrade once WM7 is released, but aside from that, the extra RAM is welcome but wouldn't be a necessity. I'd say SE has outdone themselves if they did in fact give us the extra RAM and a good sign of things to come



Great news indeed, but i wonder how much RAM does WM7 requires.
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Posted: 2008-10-12 03:30:38
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

imho WM7 will run fine with 256MB even. WM6.1 will run fine with 128MB, and I really don't expect WM7 will be so much more memory hungry that it will need more than 256MB.

However where the extra memory will be useful on WM7 is if you are a performance junkie and use the platform to it's full extent. While you will work hard to uitilise more than 256MB using wm6.1, you wil be able to hit this ceiling a lot sooner with WM7.

I expect that when WM7 comes out memory in the higher end of WM phones will jump from 256MB to 512MB (not 384MB). So I don't think the extra memory is to allow for WM7. Personally I expect it will be to make the panels work more efficiently.


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Posted: 2008-10-12 03:43:40
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WhyBe Posts: > 500

What feature(s) in WM7 will require such huge amounts of memory?

@Indrawan:
I'm a skeptic, but your info is changing my pessimism Hope it's true.

@mode:
Personally, I think Humble will be back. He's just frustrated at waiting for the X1. Now he's going to wait for another device that isn't released yet Seems irrational to me. Should I have begged him to stay?

@Humble
Should I have begged you to stay? (I know you're reading this )
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Posted: 2008-10-12 05:48:56
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l337h1um Posts: 69

What makes any of you think that SE will provide an upgrade to WM7? There is absolutely no way that is going to happen. I cannot think of any example that suggests that they would. Please prove me wrong, because I would love them to provide an upgrade path to WM7 - so by all means, prove me wrong - but don't just say I'm wrong, because all evidence, all common sense - suggests that there is no way SE will provide an upgrade. I mean, really - why would they? It will make them much more money if they refuse to, and instead tell you to buy their next phone that comes with WM7.
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Posted: 2008-10-12 05:51:16
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pinguino1 Posts: 174


On 2008-10-12 03:43:40, max_wedge wrote:
imho WM7 will run fine with 256MB even. WM6.1 will run fine with 128MB, and I really don't expect WM7 will be so much more memory hungry that it will need more than 256MB.

However where the extra memory will be useful on WM7 is if you are a performance junkie and use the platform to it's full extent. While you will work hard to uitilise more than 256MB using wm6.1, you wil be able to hit this ceiling a lot sooner with WM7.

I expect that when WM7 comes out memory in the higher end of WM phones will jump from 256MB to 512MB (not 384MB). So I don't think the extra memory is to allow for WM7. Personally I expect it will be to make the panels work more efficiently.

Hi Max_wedge,
Good points, I agree with all your hunchs. let me add a few comments to it.

The fact is that we don't know EXACTLY how much RAM is needed for Xperia to run "fine" so even less for an unkown WM 7. We don't even know what "fine" is.

After reading so many posts of people wandering about 256 384 "is needed", "not needed", "I don't care" I'm angry" "It's enough" and on and on

What people really need to know here is that MORE is BETTER Today and but important tomorrow.

RAM is where everything happen. When an App runs the system MOVES all the necessary stuff into RAM like programs to be executed and data, tables etc There is where all is manipulated

If the system runs out of RAM it should not hang and lockup what it does is it moves stuff out RAM and brings what it needs into RAM and when is done then it has to bring back the stuff that was moved out before.

For instance: There is 1 GB of map data in the microSD for the GPS to use. Obvioulsly it doesn't fit all of it in the RAM. So the system MOVES as much as it fits into RAM. Therefore it will run faster with 384MB than 256 or 128MB because with 384MB the systems doesn't need to access the microSD so often.

If we add multitasking to this scenario the amount or READS & MOVES are dramatically increased and performance suffer to a crawl.

Bottom line if you can get 384 on the Xperia FIGHT! for it. And you don't be sorry later.





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Posted: 2008-10-12 05:52:05
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tai020381 Posts: > 500

Fight for lower price too !!~~ xD
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Posted: 2008-10-12 06:04:19
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