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On 2008-10-12 05:51:16, l337h1um wrote:
What makes any of you think that SE will provide an upgrade to WM7? There is absolutely no way that is going to happen. I cannot think of any example that suggests that they would. Please prove me wrong, because I would love them to provide an upgrade path to WM7 - so by all means, prove me wrong - but don't just say I'm wrong, because all evidence, all common sense - suggests that there is no way SE will provide an upgrade. I mean, really - why would they? It will make them much more money if they refuse to, and instead tell you to buy their next phone that comes with WM7.
Well, you could buy their next phone that comes with WM7 or you could buy the X1 that everyone's fawning over and upgrade it to WM7. Either way, SE makes money on the sale of a device. Then, there are those with the X1 who are going to upgrade to "X2" regardless.
At this point in the game, I think it is wise for Microsoft to have their OS work on as many devices as possible--not just limit themselves to unknown next-gen devices.
[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-10-12 05:17 ]
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Posted: 2008-10-12 06:12:41
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Even though Se won't let us upgrade to WM7,we can still upgrade X1 with the help of WM community that hacks WM phones and PDA. So that's not really a problem(hope so
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Posted: 2008-10-12 06:56:43
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Next thing up, some iphone fanboys are gonna bash this phone's OS for not being "flexible enough"
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Posted: 2008-10-12 07:35:28
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To the RAM discussion:
this is a _mobile_ device, with a _mobile_ OS. It doesn't need to have gigabytes of RAM or gigahertz processors, high-end video cards, etc. It is _mobile_. If you need the power of a desktop computer, buy a laptop. Think again your needs.
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Posted: 2008-10-12 08:49:12
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Norti,
This is the day of convergent devices, mate.
People dont want to carry e.g. a phone, a seperate mp3 player, a seperate camera, and we are getting close to the point where they dont want to carry a laptop, or netbook.
The luxury is in having a single device that will manage many of the things that that collection of devices will do, AND fit into your pocket, or handbag.
So, all that RAM and those high speed processors are now, not essential, but becoming necessary.
Stay happy.
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Posted: 2008-10-12 10:20:05
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On 2008-10-12 08:49:12, norti wrote:
To the RAM discussion:
this is a _mobile_ device, with a _mobile_ OS. It doesn't need to have gigabytes of RAM or gigahertz processors, high-end video cards, etc. It is _mobile_. If you need the power of a desktop computer, buy a laptop. Think again your needs.
Buying a laptop is not a solution, especially if you want a computer to fit in your pocket. If you haven't noticed, this is the trend, and the company that could provide this solution will be successful. This is, of course if the company wants to be ahead of the competitors instead of worrying about what's the 'norm'.
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Posted: 2008-10-12 10:37:26
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SE have called this device "Xperia" for a reason. They want the hardware and software to be a great experience. From intial reviews the hardware is considered to be 'special' (slide mechanism and quality of screen)- so 50% of the objective has been achieved. We know that WM6.1 is probably not the most effcient OS there is. So SE have done what they can - which I think explains the choice od RAM. I assume their tests show that that much RAM is needed for video and music. Those with the P990s will remember how poor the experience was with the RAM issue
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Posted: 2008-10-12 10:47:43
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On 2008-10-12 10:47:43, Jah wrote:
SE have called this device "Xperia" for a reason. They want the hardware and software to be a great experience. From intial reviews the hardware is considered to be 'special' (slide mechanism and quality of screen)- so 50% of the objective has been achieved. We know that WM6.1 is probably not the most effcient OS there is. So SE have done what they can - which I think explains the choice od RAM. I assume their tests show that that much RAM is needed for video and music. Those with the P990s will remember how poor the experience was with the RAM issue
A Samsung i900 with 128Mb runs video very well. video and audio playing does not require large amounts of ram to work smoothly. it's active panels (as max said) that consume most of the ram real estates.
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Posted: 2008-10-12 10:58:14
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On 2008-10-12 05:48:56, WhyBe wrote:
What feature(s) in WM7 will require such huge amounts of memory?
I'm not saying it will need 512MB, just that I expect WM devices will double memory as they often have in the past (32/64/128/256 etc). So by the time WM7 comes out, 256MB will be benchline and 512MB will be high end.
Then benchline will double to 512MB, and high end will be 1GB
now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout baby
On 2008-10-12 10:47:43, Jah wrote:
We know that WM6.1 is probably not the most effcient OS there is. So SE have done what they can - which I think explains the choice od RAM. I assume their tests show that that much RAM is needed for video and music.
Since when do we all know WM 6.1 is not the most efficient OS?
Honestly it runs fine on the HTC Touch Dual with 128mb. My i780 runs video and music with ease, it's also 128mb. It's only WM6.0, but there isn't such a significant difference between 6.0 and 6.1 in terms of performance.
256mb is more than enough, 384mb is a bucketload.
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Posted: 2008-10-12 11:47:54
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On 2008-10-12 11:47:54, max_wedge wrote:
On 2008-10-12 05:48:56, WhyBe wrote:
What feature(s) in WM7 will require such huge amounts of memory?
I'm not saying it will need 512MB, just that I expect WM devices will double memory as they often have in the past (32/64/128/256 etc). So by the time WM7 comes out, 256MB will be benchline and 512MB will be high end.
Then benchline will double to 512MB, and high end will be 1GB
now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout baby
1Gb for a WM device!
couple it with the 1Ghz qualcomm snapdragon CPU and that kicks ass
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Posted: 2008-10-12 11:51:33
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