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skyXperia Posts: 175


On 2018-07-16 10:47:09, AlvinZahranM wrote:
Anyone noticed how rapidly "Xperia XZ2 Premium - the ultimate creation machine" video views on YouTube has grown? It grew 120,000 views since yesterday evening (14:00 CET). Now it has 400,000 views.
[ This Message was edited by: AlvinZahranM on 2018-07-16 10:03 ]



Nope. They uploaded and unlisted at the day of official online launch. People can access from the official page.
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Posted: 2018-07-16 16:08:35
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admad Posts: > 500


On 2018-07-16 16:05:18, Moe87 wrote:
My point is:

If with iso 400 and 1/15s for example you can have same quality of iso 100 + 1/2s then OIS is no longer necessary.
Also even phones with OIS can blur pics with SS 1s..



You can't have same quality with higher ISO, higher ISO = less quality.

The best combination is good quality lens allowing high ISO and OIS. If Sony wants to be on top of mobile camera market they must consider this.
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Posted: 2018-07-16 16:42:21
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HxH Posts: > 500

I didn't know that very first Sony Alpha 7 was introduced same year as Xperia Z (2013)

In five years time, they make introduces 9 major models, two of them already won grand prize in camera industry.


Beaten up major player like Canon and Nikon, in their own field of specialist

then, I have no wonder why they still have such a confident for mobile turnaround

but how and when would really interesting questions as currently of financial and sales in deep struggle

previously head of camera division also now in charge as CEO of Xperia,,, what the change will bring
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Posted: 2018-07-16 17:01:30
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Killmonger Posts: 42


On 2018-07-16 11:06:20, AlvinZahranM wrote:
I thought Premium is the new Ultra since Z5P launch. Yeah, they're not the same because of the different screen sizes between the two and no pencil support.

You should try 18:9 display. I think it is great for overall daily use but a bit annoying only when viewing 16:9 pictures and videos (only a bit).



I like the 16:9 ratio more. Plus the thinness of Z Ultra is still unbeaten. 6.5 millimeters...
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Posted: 2018-07-16 17:06:47
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spektykles Posts: 367

No go for OIS in Xperia in my opinion

Jelly effect, power hungry (yes camera playing the battery so bad Sony using low power sensor variant in XZ2P), cant disable right away when you dont need it and hard to combine with some of the camera effects. Also making the camera package larger than the one now If you want hump or curved back then no comment, at worst say goodbye to small bezels
[ This Message was edited by: spektykles on 2018-07-16 16:33 ]

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Posted: 2018-07-16 17:31:13
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pigletsquid Posts: 61


On 2018-07-16 17:31:13, spektykles wrote:
No go for OIS in Xperia in my opinion

Jelly effect, power hungry (yes camera playing the battery so bad Sony using low power sensor variant in XZ2P), cant disable right away when you dont need it and hard to combine with some of the camera effects. Also making the camera package larger than the one now If you want hump or curved back then no comment, at worst say goodbye to small bezels
[ This Message was edited by: spektykles on 2018-07-16 16:33 ]

What has jelly effect, dual camera? And you mean it will have a big hump/curve in back and big bezels?

Is this IFA phone or next year/MWC?
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Posted: 2018-07-16 18:04:23
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john.smith19 Posts: 38

What has jelly effect, dual camera? And you mean it will have a big hump/curve in back and big bezels?


He's talking about OIS equipped cameras, and reasons why OIS is unlikely for a new Xperia
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Posted: 2018-07-16 18:33:30
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Moe87 Posts: > 500

I have seen samples of XZ2p compared to XZ2, P20 Pro and G7..
Yes, it can give you better quality than other devices even if iso is 200, 400, 600 more.
Noise can easily be removed with edition..

@pigletsquid Phones with OIS show jelly effect during video recording, gyro EIS does not do it.


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Posted: 2018-07-16 18:38:09
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pigletsquid Posts: 61

Ah right, thanks for clarifying.
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Posted: 2018-07-16 19:08:29
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ascariss Posts: > 500

Just coincidence but the date on the XA2 plus corresponds to an actual day this year, so Thursday august 30th.

Found the page for the schedule if it still will work.
https://b2b.ifa-berlin.com/Press/PressConferences/index.jsp

On the ifa site, there is this, not sure it was written like this before in previous years, maybe, don't recall. Probably means nothing, but it could be something. Unless someone can find last years page on IFA's site showing the schedule for the press conferences which shows the same thing.



Also I am sure this was mentioned but like the XA2 plus, the XZ2 and XZ2c have the date of sunday feb 25th, again corresponding to the actual day this year for MWC, feb 26th was when it officially started. And maybe surprisingly, the XZ2 premium has the same date on it's press photos, meaning, like speculated on here, it was most likely going to debut at MWC 2018 but pulled in the last moment.
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Posted: 2018-07-16 21:45:12
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