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Xixixixixixixi ok if you mean that,but you are really stupid!
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Posted: 2007-07-16 22:13:31
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On 2007-07-16 22:13:31, sasha-SE wrote:
Xixixixixixixi ok if you mean that,but you are really stupid!
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show me where eldar said nokia doesnt actually use CZ. We'll see who the stupid fellow is.
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Posted: 2007-07-16 22:20:45
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On 2007-07-16 21:59:45, QVGA wrote:
so you are saying the lens actually isnt a CZ one?
Licensing the technology behind the CZ optics is not same as buying the optics from CZ. Licensing means you get technical specification and know how from CZ, but the actual design and manufacturing is made by someone else (in this case Nokia).
Its same situation with the Walkman and the CyberShot technologies SE is using, which are licensed from Sony.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2007-07-17 00:23 ]
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Posted: 2007-07-16 22:58:24
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And just who exactly are you to constantly attack other devices and members of the Forum, with incorrect facts and opinions at least when i am asked to quantify my opinions i can back them up. Whilst you just spout rubbish and can't back anything you say up with facts. If you didn't keep spouting such garbage myself and others wouldn't have to waste our time correcting you. I never say i hate any device just a little fantasy of yours to justify your actions is it. Come back once you have learnt how to debate properly as until then you will just continue to make your self look foolish and have to resort to insults as you have no genuine response.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-07-17 04:16 ]
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Posted: 2007-07-17 04:31:29
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Jeez guys dont' you ever get tired of it!!
Whenever there is a discussion it descends into the same pattern of animosity and calling each other's post rubbish etc etc.
It just comes across a bunch of people trying to score points of each other and ruins the whole discussion.
When was the last time anyone posted anything actually relating to the thread topic?
Anyway, the Z9 and the V9 both look great spec-wise, the styling still harks back to the RAZR ,something I think Moto should be leaving behind now but I think it is going to get worse for Moto before it gets better so I think SE taking the number three slot is no huge feat really.
Now if LG overtake Moto, that would really be something to write home about
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VOTE NOW IN THE ESATO AWARDS[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2007-07-17 08:41 ]
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Posted: 2007-07-17 08:31:51
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I love these debates.Another thing, as i've pointed out just recently, dogmann speaks his mind and what's more he speaks sense.I just come on here when i'm drunk to wind up the se fanboys and have a giggle to myself but that's another story.Carry on fellas.
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Posted: 2007-07-17 10:18:40
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On 2007-07-17 04:31:29, Dogmann wrote:
@k850 successor
And just who exactly are you to constantly attack other devices and members of the Forum, with incorrect facts and opinions at least when i am asked to quantify my opinions i can back them up. Whilst you just spout rubbish and can't back anything you say up with facts. If you didn't keep spouting such garbage myself and others wouldn't have to waste our time correcting you. I never say i hate any device just a little fantasy of yours to justify your actions is it. Come back once you have learnt how to debate properly as until then you will just continue to make your self look foolish and have to resort to insults as you have no genuine response.
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-07-17 04:16 ]
when have i ever attacked a device tell me? i have always said that n95 has a bad cam, but as a matter of fact it is one of the best smartphones on the market.
but what are you doing here anyway? this is a SE forum, not nokia forum. i have never heard you say any positive thing about other devices than nokia.
now to the subject:
it is possible for SE to overtake the third place, because moto is falling, but the have quite a few new interesting products such as RAZR2 and Q 9h. these phones would help a bit, but im still sure about samsung and sony ericsson are going to pass by
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Posted: 2007-07-17 10:43:28
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@k850 successor
You really are a very funny man as you say
"when have i ever attacked a device tell me?"
and then in the same sentence say
"i have always said that n95 has a bad cam,"
what's that then a a compliment? besides which you are wrong just what are you basing this knowledge and view on and are you aware that with the last two firmware upgrades the Camera quality has been improved?
As to what i am doing here it's an SE Forum well up until a Year ago nearly all my devices had been Ericsson and then SE but that's not your call to make either. It appears you are yet another that believes we should all only praise SE no criticism allowed.
As for your next bit of fantasy just how stupid are you to actually say this
"i have never heard you say any positive thing about other devices than nokia."
I suggest you go and look on the first page of this thread to start with as that just proves how biased and incorrect you really are. You may only praise SE as to praise anything else is blasphemy. But i praise any device if I find it to deserve it and not just because it's a Nokia like you would like to have others believe.
Also as stated earlier in this thread i really don't think that Motorola are going to be in big trouble at all i am actually quite sure that with the 5-6 UIQ3 devices plus the new very highly specified RAZR V9 they will claw back a lot of their lost market share. The V9 is a stunner of a device 2mm thinner than the original a real premium device with spec's to match and could easily be as big a hit as the original was. The Motorola UIQ3 Z8 already has better specs than it's SE cousins and i am sure the new devices will follow suit. But only time will show us for sure who gains and who falls in the last half of the Year but i wouldn't be so sure about Motorola being deposed just yet.
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-07-17 10:53 ]
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Posted: 2007-07-17 11:35:39
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@QVGA
Carl Zeiss is pure marketing. These aren't actually Carl Zeiss produced lenses, and the fact of the matter is, Nokia needs the brand name to drive the image into the public to make sure that they appear like quality photographic tools. The public is easily fooled by brand names, as is seen by any product (iPod,

etc.) in any market.
And what's the point of a sharp lens when you wash all the detail out with over-the-top noise reduction and overprocessing.
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Posted: 2007-07-17 13:10:57
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On 2007-07-16 12:55:20, Dogmann wrote:
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Have you not heard about the deal that Moto have done/ are doing with Kodak that when it comes online will mean greatly improved camera spec's. Also not all devices are just about the Camera for most the Camera is just a convenient tool that allows the taking of spur of the moment pictures.
The number of people to whom the Camera is the most important and deciding factor is actually relatively small IMO.
@EMS06
Will you be taken cream on that pie? no seriously though the specs that Moto are putting in these new devices is right up there with the best of them. They are moving away to new Os's and their choice of premium materials for construction are excellent. I wish i had a dollar for every time some one writes off Motorola as i would be rich. Personally i think they are going to hit back at the market hard and give Samsung and SE a bit of a shock in the process.
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-07-16 11:56 ]
I can understand people saying that SE's technology is out of date compared to Nokia (QVGA, Sapporobaby), and Nokia's are quality devices, but saying that SE's technology is out of date compared to Moto is just a joke.
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Posted: 2007-07-18 11:27:41
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