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@se_dude,
You're right, the lens sticking out when camera is active.

But while inactive, the motor will makes the lens sunk to the body of the phone, just like another camera phone

Like this:
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Posted: 2008-07-09 18:21:54
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My impressions are
Less/poor post processing
Poor optics
Cam UI looks ok
It seems there are problems with exposure/white balance selection.

but i dont really blame them since they are a small company and its cheap.
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Posted: 2008-07-09 19:13:15
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Now how cool is that
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Posted: 2008-07-09 19:42:00
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@shyam335,

The picture seems blurry, but quite low noise.

I think that's all because cam driver that is not optimized (still premature in this stage). I see a little Noise-Reduction, and Yes, wrong light balance on some pics (all settings are auto white-balance).

" but i dont really blame them since they are a small company and its cheap, " shyam335 said.

Exactly. I just make a comparison between "small company and this cheap product" to SonyEricsson under Sony Japan CyberShot Technology.

Since K750i and K800i, SonyEricsson seems not showing their effort to makes a better Camera Module. They also insisting using CMOS instead of CCD.

They even decided to use Samsung CamModule in C905, instead of continuing the development of their own Sony Sensors. . .

The Camera-UI of C905 also doesn't makes huge difference with K850's UI.

Apart of SmartContrast, Geotagging and 8MP, I didn't see any difference. . .

QVGA recording???

In my prototype, ISO settings even removed, and I don't see Smile Shutters mode. But I thought they may add this feature later on final release, because it's stated in the WhitePaper. . .

Do you know some funny facts?
K800i use IMX-018 Sony Cam Module, sensitivity 106 mV
K850i use IMX-020 Sony Cam Module, sensitivity 57 mV

They reducing the cell size of IMX-020 to 2.0 micrometer, instead of 2.5 micrometer in IMX-018. . .
By reducing cell size, they could squeeze more megapixels to same-sized sensors, and leads to sensitivity reduceness due to less light that reach the sensors.
That's why we see a hell more noise and pixel errors on K850i, although the details increased a bit. . .

For some comparison, Sony Handycam CCD sensors have sensitivity about 800 mV. . .

And I'm quite happy now because they use a bigger sensor on C905. Seems SE learns a LITTLE (not MUCH) from K850i's mistakes

And one more mistakes from K850i. . . They use low quality lens cover in K850i. If you removed glass that protects the lens, the purple fringing and chromatic aberration reduced a lot.

Chromatic aberration and purple fringing usually because of low quality optics (in this case, a glass lens cover that protects the main lens.)

Just try removing that glass cover, especially a people that experienced a dust under lens cover. The auto-shutter already covered the main lens, so it is useless to have some stupid additional lens cover. Just look at K800i

[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2008-07-09 19:19 ]
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Posted: 2008-07-09 20:14:05
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SE's able to make a better mobile-phone, they re-create their models for money. Everything's about marketing
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Posted: 2008-07-09 20:42:48
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I think SE if going down slowly....
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Posted: 2008-07-09 23:56:46
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can do, but it does not
the design of K-touch is bad, is a camera with a keyboard

Puede hacerlo, pero no lo hace
el diseño del K-touch es malo, es una camara fotografica con un teclado
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Posted: 2008-07-10 18:37:25
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Any news about C800 and C700 pictures quality??
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Posted: 2008-08-19 01:20:36
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