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gharknes1 Posts: 231

I think optical zoom on a phone is asking for trouble, mechanical movement = failure over time, the camera function does what it does very well if you want to shoot beyond that then get a digi camera, i am happy it doesn't have optical zoom, might even put me off buying it, to much room for breakdown in an everyday use item
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Posted: 2009-11-20 09:39:23
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vegetaleb Posts: > 500

Yeah why not asking for a DSLR CCD system in your phones too
The advantage of 12mp is that the photos are so large that it's like if you had 5x optical zoom!
Unless you have a 50'' LCD with 4000x3000 resolution
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Posted: 2009-11-20 09:45:09
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Vit Posts: 279


On 2009-11-20 09:39:23, gharknes1 wrote:
I think optical zoom on a phone is asking for trouble, mechanical movement = failure over time, the camera function does what it does very well if you want to shoot beyond that then get a digi camera, i am happy it doesn't have optical zoom, might even put me off buying it, to much room for breakdown in an everyday use item


That's not necessarily true.

In the meantime, I've came across some hot news @ mobile-review.com:

"The Sony Ericsson Satio has been pulled from sale in the UK at the Carphone Warehouse. The reason for the recall is being cited as software issues. an all too common problem for Sony Ericsson handsets over the past year or two. Interestingly though Carphone Warehouse is continuing to sell the silver variant of the handset, it's only the black version that has been withdrawn from sale. There is as yet no word of whether this recall affects other retailers in the UK or indeed other retailers in other countries. Sony Ericsson themselves will not be keen on having their current flagship handset withdrawn from sale, especially so close to the Christmas shopping period. Sony Ericsson have been trying to put their previous history of buggy and defective handsets behind them and this latest episode certainly won't help those efforts. "

Not so good news for SE. Hard to believe that they kept everyone waiting that long for it, creating even a Lauch Blog for this phone, and now it has that many problems. It feels that they haven't tested it to its exhaustion. Car manufacturers do test their produtcts in the most extreme conditions just to make sure they will handle harsh situations well. It's such a shame, even more if we consider its hefty price.
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Posted: 2009-11-20 15:36:13
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Vit Posts: 279


On 2009-11-20 09:45:09, vegetaleb wrote:
Yeah why not asking for a DSLR CCD system in your phones too
The advantage of 12mp is that the photos are so large that it's like if you had 5x optical zoom!
Unless you have a 50'' LCD with 4000x3000 resolution



It's not so simple. If you squeeze 12 Megapixels in such a small sensor then you may end up with lousy quality shots when zooming pics to a pixel to pixel level. Even the less informed customer already knows it isn't just a matter of increasing the number of pixels. I would've prefered that they have increased the sensor size and put better lenses than having 12 Mpixels on board. Who really benefit from the move from 8 to 12 MPixels? See people posting pics around here. They almost never post full sized pictures. Instead, they post them @ VGA res. It's gimmickry. You can also see that it's post processing is too much aggressive; just take a look @ their pics sizes. 2 Mb for 12 Mpixel shots? Even the C905 can produce way larger pics.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2009-11-20 14:52 ]

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Posted: 2009-11-20 15:50:09
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danp330 Posts: 14


On 2009-11-19 18:16:46, 66stephen99 wrote:
Slight update on the above if you're interested: It seems to be to do with number of files the media manager can deal with. If i remove all files from the memory card. Refresh the media, it doesn't a) crash and b) from that point on photos work. but...i want music and phtoos on my memory card ...roll on next week's firmware update...


I have experienced the same problem Stephen, it seems to occur when you have more than about 1500 photos (for me at least). Sblantipodi created a thread about this issue which contains a little more info: Satio Media BUG

I'm also hoping for a firmware fix ASAP, as I used to keep my entire photo collection on my c905, whereas currently I can only store the last 5 months of photos, in order to prevent this problem from occurring.
[ This Message was edited by: danp330 on 2009-11-20 16:21 ]

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Posted: 2009-11-20 17:10:20
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Pikkie Posts: 8


On 2009-11-20 15:36:13, Vit wrote:

In the meantime, I've came across some hot news @ mobile-review.com:

"The Sony Ericsson Satio has been pulled from sale in the UK at the Carphone Warehouse. The reason for the recall is being cited as software issues. an all too common problem for Sony Ericsson handsets over the past year or two. Interestingly though Carphone Warehouse is continuing to sell the silver variant of the handset, it's only the black version that has been withdrawn from sale.



Why only the black ones? Is the silver phones better?
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Posted: 2009-11-20 18:15:14
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Killmaster09 Posts: 8

Just talked to SE in sweden and he said the firmware will come out in december for users in sweden. No date thou...
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Posted: 2009-11-23 15:56:03
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vegetaleb Posts: > 500

They have so much bugs and improvements to deal with, that's why it takes so long
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Posted: 2009-11-23 16:08:59
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altemyr Posts: > 500


On 2009-11-23 16:08:59, vegetaleb wrote:
They have so much bugs and improvements to deal with, that's why it takes so long


Probably. And also, I believe that feels that's it's really important that the new release is very free from new bugs...
[ This Message was edited by: altemyr on 2009-11-23 15:54 ]

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Posted: 2009-11-23 16:53:38
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Fernandinho Posts: 38

Anyone noted the "bug" of the lock/unlock key? It reminds me my Nokia 5800 initial firmware that has that bug. Sometimes I have to press several times until the screen goes on, hope SE fix that soon, because if Nokia done it, SE can also to do it I'm sure
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Posted: 2009-11-23 23:17:49
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